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    Default Dear Speaker Boehner: tell obama no talks about debt ceiling until.....

    he and reid present their budgets.


    It's that simple.....

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    Why? Appropriation bills are supposed to originate in the house. If the GOP is actually serious about spending then have them pass a balanced budget. A balanced budget wouldn't require a debt ceiling increase.

    It really is up to them. I won't be holding my breath.

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    Now I thought an annual rough budget draft starts with the President who then sends it to the Senate for refinement. And then to the House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Now I thought an annual rough budget draft starts with the President who then sends it to the Senate for refinement. And then to the House.

    All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

    Considering a budget would need to do such things then I'd expect a budget to start in the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiAuto View Post
    Why? Appropriation bills are supposed to originate in the house. If the GOP is actually serious about spending then have them pass a balanced budget. A balanced budget wouldn't require a debt ceiling increase.

    It really is up to them. I won't be holding my breath.
    Yes....as to appropriation bills you are correct but budgets are by law the responsibility of the President and the Senate Majority leader. The House has prepared several budgets that Reid has refused to consider.

    In that you rightfully brought up appropriations are supposed to originate in the House, perhaps you can comment on the unconstitutionality of Obamacare and its taxes originating in the Senate.

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    If Republicans want to cut spending they should propose the spending cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grindelwald View Post
    If Republicans want to cut spending they should propose the spending cuts.
    If Obama wants to be President, he needs to follow the law and the Constitution......ditto for Harry Reid. Harry should have been budgeting instead of fabricating lies about Romney being a tax evader.

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    No more deals, no more holding the American people hostage for deals.

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    Doesn't the Prez present his budget (as the executive) to Congress, The House reviews it and prepares an appropriation bill (adjusting the Prez' budget) ...then the Senate gets it.

    The issue was that the Prez never created one and we've been living off CRs ever since.
    Right?

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    Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIKMAN View Post
    Doesn't the Prez present his budget (as the executive) to Congress, The House reviews it and prepares an appropriation bill (adjusting the Prez' budget) ...then the Senate gets it.

    The issue was that the Prez never created one and we've been living off CRs ever since.
    Right?
    No. The president submitted a 2013 budget that got voted down in both houses.

    So the house passed its own budget.

    The senate hasn't passed a budget since 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggSeth View Post
    he and reid present their budgets.


    It's that simple.....
    I think you're misinformed, Obama doesn't want to raise the debt ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fang View Post
    I think you're misinformed, Obama doesn't want to raise the debt ceiling.
    Obama has asked for automatic debt ceiling increases to pay for the bills approved by Congress. Obama does not want to cut spending.

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    Ok , agree, the Senate hasn't done anything, the House has passed budgets which are DOA when the reach the Senate- but normally, aren't all three reconciled so the government has a budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIKMAN View Post
    Ok , agree, the Senate hasn't done anything, the House has passed budgets which are DOA when the reach the Senate- but normally, aren't all three reconciled so the government has a budget?
    There is usually some form of negotiation to get all parties on board.

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    In 2009 the President sent his rough budget draft to the Senate where not one vote was for it. But they did not attempt to refine it and instead placed it in the round file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK
    If Obama wants to be President, he needs to follow the law and the Constitution......ditto for Harry Reid. Harry should have been budgeting instead of fabricating lies about Romney being a tax evader.
    Just because you don't agree with the President doesn't mean he is violating the Constitution, or are you really that vain? Now if I was Obama, and the Republicans wanted me to cut spending as part of the deal, I'd tell them if they want to cut spending they must propose the cuts. Only common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grindelwald View Post
    Only common sense.
    You're talking about TerryK dude. The guy still trying to prove Obama isn't a citizen

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