NY Gun Control legislation passes

[reg_indy]

Maybe for NY. That position is suicidal nationally. They won't get an assault weapons ban passed or will get a very weak one, even this close to Sandy Hook. Imagine pushing that stuff in three years.

Assuming there's no other gun related tragedy, maybe...If the gun violence continues, or another Sandy Hook scale tragedy occurs, things might be different.


Personally, I'd love to see a national referendum on this.

[Jeebus]

Now don't come "unhinged".

LMAO.

More is coming....wait for it.

Does nothing about the 60 million semi-auto rifles already out there.

Does nothing about the 30 million 10+ mags.

Which part of this fearful over-reaction would have stopped:

Newtown?

VA Tech?

Killeen TX?

San Ysidro McD's?

[Contumacious]

He doesn't have any chance of winning the South if he runs. The rest of the country is more progressive...

more progressive.......hummmmm....do you mean more gullible......more narcotized.....am I close?

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[MDvet]

I find it ironic that most of the same people whining about unnecessary gun laws are in favor of unnecessary voter ID laws despite the overwhelming evidence that most voter fraud doesn't happen in person...

I noticed that irony too, but you will also have to find it ironic that people that oppose voter ID laws are in favor of laws further restiricting law abiding citizens gun rights when the overwhelming evidence that legal gun owners don't commit crimes.

For me it's very simple, I will wait 14 days, get finger printed, register it, pay annual fees, submit myself to background check, buy a gun safe to store it (already have a big gun safe), even have police inspect my gun safe, no criminal record, no history of mental illness, and file my taxes every year. If so can I buy assualt weapons because I like them. Gun control advocates don't understand it, but assualt weapon vs rifles/hand guns is like a difference between a sports car vs sub compact car.

Criminals are not going to buy guns from gun stores legally.
Criminals are not going to register their guns.
Criminals are not going to purchase 7 round magazines because they are illegal.
Most criminals don't use assualt weapons as they are hard to conceal and carry and will get you in more trouble if you get caught. Not too many robberies committed with assault weapons like we see on movies.

[gonzoliberal]

'Just ran into this rather interesting little essay that asks three fundamental questions;

excerpt;

Leave out the 2nd amendment, the NRA, liberal, conservative, whatever. Let me ask you to ask yourself a few questions:

Does a person have a right to defend themselves and their family from an attack?

if "yes", then:

Does a person have a right to do so with a means that can keep a larger or stronger attacker outside of arms reach?

and:

Does a person have a right to defend themselves against multiple attackers?


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I think the comments will become more interesting as the day wears on.

Remember, the way to keep a diary on the front page at DK is to "recommend" it.

Anyway, thoughts on those three questions?

(I would answer yes to all three, fwiw)

[Daan]

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http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/...6_1_screen.pdf
Fact: Not in Canada.

More than 20,000 Canadian gun-owners have publicly refused to register their firearms. Many others (as many as 300,000 (97)) are silently ignoring the law.
• And all at a cost more than 1,646% the original projected cost (98) (the original cost was estimated at 5% of all police expenditures in Canada(99)). "The gun registry as it sits right now is causing law abiding citizens to register their guns but it does nothing to take one illegal gun off the street or to increase any type of penalty for anybody that violates any part of the legislation," according to Al Koenig, President, Calgary Police Association. (100) "We have an ongoing gun crisis, including firearms-related homicides lately in Toronto, and a law registering firearms has neither deterred these crimes nor helped us solve any of them," according to Toronto police Chief Julian Fantino . (101)
• A Saskatchewan MP who endorsed the long gun registry when first proposed has introduced legislation to abolish it stating that, “[the registry] has not saved one life in Canada, and it has been a financial sinkhole … absolutely useless in helping locate the 255,000 people who have been prohibited from owning firearms by the courts.” (104)

We don't need another Government boondoggle that will not stop criminals getting guns and will not prevent another mass killing but will turn many currently law abiding gun owners into law breakers.

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[The Astute Reader(tm)]

You're either lying or an extreme cherry picker.

Really? So what are the real facts then, Grumbles?

Hint: anyone can look at the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports and see that violent crime has been steadily falling and if you wish to deny that firearms ownership has steadily increased during the same period then you're completely delusional.

So address the point instead of playing your customary silly games.

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

The identities of gun owners is no longer in the public record:

In a concession to the gun industry, local authorities will be allowed to withhold the identities of registered gun owners — an issue that erupted recently when a suburban New York City newspaper published the names and addresses of gun owners in its readership area.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2I6AAZw9M

You mispelled "in a concession to the individual's right to privacy"

[Wizard777]

You mispelled "in a concession to the individual's right to privacy"

Big freakin' deal. You "mispelled" misspelled. So what's your point?

[soulflower]

You mispelled "in a concession to the individual's right to privacy"

Copy and paste job. Blame the Daily News

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

Copy and paste job. Blame the Daily News

Lame excuse. Try owning what you post instead of passing the buck.

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

So what's your point?

Really? You have no idea what my point might have been? Go back to your bong, Whizzer.

[soulflower]

Lame excuse. Try owning what you post instead of passing the buck.

So you're arguing that I should have altered the quote?

[Marshan Man]

O'Malley's going to have to outdo Cuomo with MD's legislation... it's all about 2016! So far Cuomo seems to be the leader and MOM the follower. Not looking good MOM...

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

So you're arguing that I should have altered the quote?

I am saying that you should have excluded or disclaimed any content with which you did not agree. By taking neither action you implicitly agree with the quoted content.

[soulflower]

I am saying that you should have excluded or disclaimed any content with which you did not agree. By taking neither action you implicitly agree with the quoted content.

Thanks but I'd rather post quotes as-is when I post news excerpts. If I want to give my two-cents, I'll add a comment before or after the quote...

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

Thanks but I'd rather post quotes as-is when I post news excerpts. If I want to give my two-cents, I'll add a comment before or after the quote...

And by not taking exception to anything in what you quoted... (Or did you not understand what I meant about a "disclaimer?")

[soulflower]

And by not taking exception to anything in what you quoted... (Or did you not understand what I meant about a "disclaimer?")

I totally understood it. The author's use of "gun industry" instead of gun owners was a little biased.

I initially thought you were attributing the quote to me...

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

I totally understood it. The author's use of "gun industry" instead of gun owners was a little biased.

I initially thought you were attributing the quote to me...

No, I knew it was an excerpt. I would, however, have expected that you would object to the obvious privacy issue being written off as "a concession to the gun industry."

[CajunRaven]

Now don't come "unhinged".

LMAO.

More is coming....wait for it.

I'm not unhinged Slappy. I just find Cuomo and that idiot mayor comparable to OweMalley. And it doesn't get worse than that.

We'll see how much more is coming.

Let's see, a + a .

Who's unhinged? LMAO indeed!!!!