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    Quote Originally Posted by Grindelwald View Post
    Didn't know the Tea Party had people over there.
    Nah, sounds more like the OWS crowd.

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    It didn't take long for this thing to get ugly:


    Algerian Forces Storm Plant to Free Hostages

    Algeria security forces stormed a gas complex in the southern desert where an al-Qaeda-linked group was holding foreign hostages, according to an official with the state-run oil company Sonatrach, who asked not to be identified because he wasn’t authorized to speak to the media.

    Al-Jazeera television and Mauritania’s private ANI news agency reported that 35 hostages and 15 abductors were killed, citing unidentified people. The militants had been trying to move the hostages in vehicles when they came under attack, according to the ANI report.

    The group said it was holding 41 foreigners abducted from a natural gas complex operated by BP Plc (BP/), Statoil ASA (STL) of Norway and Algeria’s Sonatrach, while Algerian Interior Minister Dahou Ould Kablia said they numbered “a little more than 20.” American, Norwegian, British and Malaysian workers were among the hostages, according to the oil companies, family members and governments, including 12 Statoil employees and an Irish national. A British citizen died in the attack, APS said.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-hostages.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grindelwald View Post
    Didn't know the Tea Party had people over there.
    Could be coke head Obama's Chicago domestic terrorist friends moved overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    It didn't take long for this thing to get ugly:


    Algerian Forces Storm Plant to Free Hostages

    Algeria security forces stormed a gas complex in the southern desert where an al-Qaeda-linked group was holding foreign hostages, according to an official with the state-run oil company Sonatrach, who asked not to be identified because he wasn’t authorized to speak to the media.

    Al-Jazeera television and Mauritania’s private ANI news agency reported that 35 hostages and 15 abductors were killed, citing unidentified people. The militants had been trying to move the hostages in vehicles when they came under attack, according to the ANI report.

    The group said it was holding 41 foreigners abducted from a natural gas complex operated by BP Plc (BP/), Statoil ASA (STL) of Norway and Algeria’s Sonatrach, while Algerian Interior Minister Dahou Ould Kablia said they numbered “a little more than 20.” American, Norwegian, British and Malaysian workers were among the hostages, according to the oil companies, family members and governments, including 12 Statoil employees and an Irish national. A British citizen died in the attack, APS said.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-hostages.html
    Not surprised at all. US hostage rescue forces operate much differently when compared to many other countries' forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    Could be coke head Obama's Chicago domestic terrorist friends moved overseas.
    Well, he is still your president,just think for four more years. I know that hurts.

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    Obama: Can haz Amereeklans?
    Qaida: No. You may not. You have turned from submission to Allah to this Gaian Wamer nutter religion.

    It is doubtful that Obama will learn from this humiliation that he has suffered at the hands of the Lions of Islam. He will continue supporting the racist and bigoted actions of the socialist French, who are sorely in need of a diversion as their socialist economic policies are failing at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Panetta went on record calling this a terrorist attack against the US. Unfortunately Algiers is close to Mali. This could bring the US into another war against militant groups.

    State Dept warned Americans in Algeria about kidnappings in may, July and Sept 2012. We are obligated to free any American hostages taken anywhere in the world. I am assuming that the Americans in that country were there with the approval of our State Department, but we will do everything possible to bring them home regardless.


    Belmokhta has made millions in ransoms from kidnapping. This is more about money than politics or religion. Belmohkta is an Algerian that has based himself in northern Mali because its essentially ungoverned space. The Algerian "civil war" has been going on far longer than the "Islamic" rebellion in Mali. The Touareg rebellion is another thing and whether or not the Touaregs ally themselves with AQIM (and its subsidiary Ansar al-Dine) is a function of a government in Bamako that doesn't respect their rights. They would prefer autonomous rule without AQIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spot72 View Post
    State Dept warned Americans in Algeria about kidnappings in may, July and Sept 2012. We are obligated to free any American hostages taken anywhere in the world. I am assuming that the Americans in that country were there with the approval of our State Department, but we will do everything possible to bring them home regardless.


    Belmokhta has made millions in ransoms from kidnapping. This is more about money than politics or religion. Belmoktar is an Algerian that has based himself in northern Mali because its essentially ungoverned space. The Algerian "civil war" has been going on far longer than the "Islamic" rebellion in Mali. The Touareg rebellion is another thing and whether or not the Touaregs ally themselves with AQIM (and its subsidiary Ansar al-Dine) is a function of a government in Bamako that doesn't respect their rights. They would prefer autonomous rule without AQIM.
    Money used to support the bigger cause? Maybe fund raising is his specialty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiAuto View Post
    That's a bad situation. If it is al-Qaeda then you probably wouldn't want to negotiate with them even if you could. If you have to do a rescue in force then it could easily get bloody if they're the fight to the death type.
    Until a drastic change occurs, this is going to be the new normal for some time to come; Western owned assets operated by Westerners in hostile territory and susceptible to being attacked by a determined group of well organized and highly motivated radical extremists willing to die for their cause.

    The French are not going to come out of Mali so be prepared for a bad ending here; even if we sent in the Seals or Rangers in an operation it is likely there will be loss of innocent lives if the terrorists are well prepared.

    Any American taking a job in parts of the world where this is a possibility had better have a big life insurance policy as part of his/her pay package and companies doing the hiring might have to invest a lot more in private armies of mercenaries to defend outposts like this. No guarantee of safety but, evidently, it's not a stretch to say that this place was lightly defended and vulnerable.

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    Somebody needs to go back and review the scripture in regards to the taking of captives and their release when a ransom is paid. Silly Kufr and their mirror image logical fallacies.

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    Algiers is a huge oil and natural gas producing country. Any disruption in exports could increase the prices.

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