Tests show gun owners not as smart

[skeemer]

In a civil society, if you're not involved in crime or law enforcement, you shouldn't need a gun.

For most people, its a want not a need

The key word is highlighted above. America and American society are not rainbows and cupcakes like many liberals propose or simply hope them to be.

If I was unfortunate enough to live on North Ave I would most assuredly have a gun.

[ivanbalt]

In a civil society, if you're not involved in crime or law enforcement, you shouldn't need a gun.

For most people, its a want not a need

True, but not everyone believes in a civil society. Baltimore is quite uncivilized when you look at the crime numbers.

[soulflower]

The key word is highlighted above. America and American society are not rainbows and cupcakes like many liberals propose or simply hope them to be.

If I was unfortunate enough to live on North Ave I would most assuredly have a gun.

I agree that "shouldn't" is the key word.

If you live on North Ave, you might need a gun. If you live in the burbs like me, you likely don't need one.

[soulflower]

True, but not everyone believes in a civil society. Baltimore is quite uncivilized when you look at the crime numbers.

I doubt that there are many legal gun owners in Baltimore city

I was only responding to your post and explaining why myself, a Lib, chooses not to own a gun. If I felt that I needed one, I might get one. Otherwise, I don't care for them...

[Daan]

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Some anonymous blogger claims to have done a study showing dumb white Americans are the most likely to have a gun in their home.

"Although the average white American in this sample set has a Wordsum score of 6.29, respondents with the very low Wordsum score of 3 were the most likely to have a gun in their home. As Wordsum score increases, the likelihood of gun ownership decreases."

Unless this has been peer reviewed and published, then the most likely conclusion is that this is propaganda BS by some Harvard liberal.

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[Omaha Beach]

Not that this has anything to do with intelligence but gun ownership is higher in rural areas and among republicans

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...rp/#more-37925

Gun ownership today tends to be directly correlated with political leanings

You mean LEGAL ownership dont you? WHOLE lot of armed people in the inner cities committing a WHOLE, lot if crimes with guns who I assure you are not Republicans.

[ms maggie]

College graduates are much more supportive than those with less education of banning high-capacity ammunition clips and assault-style weapons.

Latest Pew study on attitudes towards gun safety.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/01/...ity-support/1/

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Half Sigma
A contrarian blog, because the majority is wrong about a lot of stuff.

What a fitting headline.

[soulflower]

You mean LEGAL ownership dont you? WHOLE lot of armed people in the inner cities committing a WHOLE, lot if crimes with guns who I assure you are not Republicans.

Got a link?

[CajunRaven]

In a civil society, if you're not involved in crime or law enforcement, you shouldn't need a gun.

For most people, its a want not a need

If law enforcement had the ability to predict where crime will occur and proactively be at the crime scene before the crime occurs, then yes, there would be no need.

Since LE is generally reactive to crime, that idea doesn't hold up.

[CajunRaven]

I agree that "shouldn't" is the key word.

If you live on North Ave, you might need a gun. If you live in the burbs like me, you likely don't need one.

Well, I live in the burbs and my house was broken into a few months ago. Luckily no one was home at the time. There were actually several buglaries in our area.

The police actually caught some yound people who are herion addicts who had been going to different neighborhoods to steal valuables to support their habit. These young people actually live about a half hour from where I live.

Our neighborhood is a bit off the beaten path and there is rarely crime around here, but it does happen.

[soulflower]

If law enforcement had the ability to predict where crime will occur and proactively be at the crime scene before the crime occurs, then yes, there would be no need.

Since LE is generally reactive to crime, that idea doesn't hold up.

It holds up just fine if you live in a relatively low crime area.

If you're not a criminal, the odds of you being involved in a gun related crime are extremely low...

[slapshot]

If law enforcement had the ability to predict where crime will occur and proactively be at the crime scene before the crime occurs, then yes, there would be no need.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH-6UImAP7c

Minority Report

[soulflower]

Well, I live in the burbs and my house was broken into a few months ago. Luckily no one was home at the time. There were actually several buglaries in our area.

The police actually caught some yound people who are herion addicts who had been going to different neighborhoods to steal valuables to support their habit. These young people actually live about a half hour from where I live.

Our neighborhood is a bit off the beaten path and there is rarely crime around here, but it does happen.

Burglars tend to wait til no one is home. Which explains why people who own guns still have burglaries.

IMO, a dog is more of a deterrent against burglars than a gun...

[CajunRaven]

Burglars tend to wait til no one is home. Which explains why people who own guns still have burglaries

Indeed they do, but sometmes they and the homeowner get surprised.

[CajunRaven]

It holds up just fine if you live in a relatively low crime area.

If you're not a criminal, the odds of you being involved in a gun related crime are extremely low...

I agree, but extremely low is no gaurantee. I'd prefer to have the ability to protect myself if the unlikely does occur.

[CajunRaven]

Burglars tend to wait til no one is home. Which explains why people who own guns still have burglaries.

IMO, a dog is more of a deterrent against burglars than a gun...

Well, we've got a 90lb dog that has the run of the yard via an invisible fence. He's great at running off the UPS and Oil delivery guys and such. In this case, not so much. And he usually barks his head off when someone he doesn't know comes on the property.

OTOH, I guess if you throw a big piece of meat to him and well.......

Don't know how they got around him.

[slapshot]

http://www.statisticbrain.com/gun-ow...-demographics/

A few stats from 2010:

40% of gun owners say they are Republicans
49% of gun owners say they are conservative
50% of gun owners say they live in the South
44% of gun owners make less than $30K/yr
42% of gun owners have a HS graduate, or less
44% of gun owners are white


....I'd say these statistics are born out by most of the gun advocates on this Forum.

[soulflower]

I agree, but extremely low is no gaurantee. I'd prefer to have the ability to protect myself if the unlikely does occur.

That's your choice and you're free to own a gun if it makes you feel safer.

I'm just saying, from a risk assessment stand point you're mostly unlikely to ever need to use a gun for safety

I honestly feel less safe when guns are present

[Baltimatt]

http://www.statisticbrain.com/gun-ow...-demographics/


44% of gun owners are white


....I'd say these statistics are born out by most of the gun advocates on this Forum.

That's disproportionately low.