Australia's Example for Controlling Guns

[veritas]

"Red herrings?" "Strawmen?" You're not seriously expecting a stand-up, honest debate from Lubejob, are you?

Not really.

[bullmikey]

bullmikey get up on the wrong side of the fainting couch this afternoon?

What's with all the darts and arrows?

Nope. No darts. No arrows. Just the facts. The second amendment exists. That's all. Try to keep up.

[bullmikey]

You assume that the 2nd amendment cannot be restricted or regulated in any way. That is far from a universe view, including that of the sitting Supreme Court.

It's part of the Bill of Rights. What is a right? Where do our rights come from? Are they gifts from the government? Which other amendments shall we regulate while we're at it? Anyway, I assume nothing, expect the worse, and am seldom disappointed. But I know what is and isn't. And a right isn't something you are answerable to anyone for.

[ms maggie]

It's part of the Bill of Rights. What is a right? Where do our rights come from? Are they gifts from the government? Which other amendments shall we regulate while we're at it? Anyway, I assume nothing, expect the worse, and am seldom disappointed. But I know what is and isn't. And a right isn't something you are answerable to anyone for.

There are unalienable rights that come from God. Other rights are commonly decided on, and codified. The Constitution was written by men, not God.

And how many times do you have to be told that other amendments ARE regulated--see the 1st amendment re child porno, libel, inciting riots etc.

Here's a Constitutional question for you: who presides over the impeachment trial of the Vice President?

[bullmikey]

I thought self defense is a human right?

Your point?

[Contumacious]

there are unalienable rights that come from god. Other rights are commonly decided on, and codified. The constitution was written by men, not god.

and how many times do you have to be told that other amendments are regulated--see the 1st amendment re child porno, libel, inciting riots etc.

here's a constitutional question for you: Who presides over the impeachment trial of the vice president?

and how many times must you be told rights are not regulated.

If they are regulated then they are government granted privileges !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bullmikey]

You can still buy a machine gun, just not a new one.

Yeah, the gangbangers, cartel monkeys, and jihad bunnies got all the latest models. I feel so much safer because of that.

[ms maggie]

and how many times must you be told rights are not regulated.

If they are regulated then they are government granted privileges !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I can publish child pornography? And I can purchase a bazooka?

[bullmikey]

You can't draw a straight line from the Declaration to the Constitution.

You can't?

[SalisburySage]

Number one who gives a rats behind about what Australia did. This is America with entirely different demographics and laws. There is no credible evidence that the Australian buy back program actually worked.

[ms maggie]

You can't?

Nope. Articles of Confederation came first. And the Constitution is vastly different from that I am sure you will agree.

If you read the DOI, there is not a single thought therein that would be out of accord with the colonies establishing a monarchy. It declared independence and listed our grievances against GIII, nothing about any form of government.

[kudzu]

Brazil is almost comparable to the US in population size and diversity. They actually have more gun deaths per 100k than we do...

Yet less guns per capita, I'd wager.

[kudzu]

You can't draw a straight line from the Declaration to the Constitution.

I didn't.

I drew a line from the Declaration to the Constitution to the writings of several prominent Founders after both.

Go knit a sweater or something...