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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    Fundamentalists are mentioned early on in the report.
    Looks to me like you only read the the Executive Summary. Extreme RIght wing VIOLENT Christian fundamentalists are not mentioned until page 33 of the report. Not to mention that you keep ignoring the author's statment: "It is important to note that this study concentrates on those individuals and groups who have actually perpetuated violence and is not a comprehensive analysis of the political causes with which some far-right extremists identify. While the ability to hold and appropriately articulate diverse political views is an American strength, extremists committing acts of violence in the name of those causes undermine the freedoms that they purport to espouse"

    Mostly he's talking about groups such as Klu Klux Klan and Aryan Nation. (Skin Heads) Who commit violent acts. So stop lying about fundamentalist christians.
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    More over any mention of "Fundamentalists" do not appear until page 4 of the executive summary. To wit:

    "Lastly, the fundamentalist stream, which includes mainly Christian Identity groups such as the Aryan Nations, fuse religious fundamentalism with traditional white supremacy and racial tendencies, thus promoting ideas of nativism, exclusionism, and racial superiority through a unique interpretation of religious texts that focuses on division of humanity according to primordial attributes. More specifically, these groups
    maintain that a correct interpretation of the holy texts reveals that it is not the people of Israel but the Anglo-Saxons who are the chosen people and therefore assert their natural superior status. Moreover, the war between the forces of light and darkness, as portrayed in the Bible, will be (or has already been) manifested through a racial war between the white Anglo-Saxon nation and various non-Anglo-Saxon ethnic groups. Operationally, violence carried out by extremists associated with Identity groups focuses on minorities and Identity members have a higher tendency to engage in mass casualty attacks in comparison to other movements."

    He is hardly talking about traditional fundamentalist christians, as you imply. This guy is an Israeli who looks at the world thorugh the eyes of Israel and its interaction with Hamas.

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    I don't imply that.

    Again, your accusations of generalization are just your way to evade the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...t-wing-threat/

    Study pdf is here

    What's interesting is how folks are starting to wake up to the seriousness of this threat, and to look at how the different groups contribute.
    Actually, what is more interesting is the government being so paranoid of its own citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    I don't imply that.

    Again, your accusations of generalization are just your way to evade the topic.
    Spin your little dream all you want. You most definitely did try to paint all Coservatives of the right wing with the same brush. Anyone with any intellectual capacity can see through your game. Keep on lying Lance Armstrong, maybe one day you'll confess.

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    Lol, ok... aaaanyway...

    Some fun snark from Wonkette:

    Pamela Geller: Why Is America Being So Mean To Domestic Terrorists?
    Vision of loveliness Pamela Geller has taken a break from inciting crazy people to push Sikh dudes into the path of oncoming trains to wonder why West Point is being so mean to “loyal Americans” who just want to violently overthrow the United States government and/or kill some mud people! It is not like the oaths of office we just heard Barack Obama and Old Handsome Joe Biden swear include anything about enemies “foreign and domestic.” And our domestic terrorists loyal Americans just happen to be committing an average of 307 violent attacks per year lately, according to a new report from West Point! So what does Pamela Geller think of loyal Americans using violence to make their needs known?

    “This is another appalling attempt to demonize loyal Americans and whitewash the Islamic threat,” Geller said. “West Point probably is working on orders from higher ups. Or else it has bought into the dominant PC culture.”

    It’s true, Pamela Geller. Everyone knows that Timothy McVeigh was a loyal American, just watering that good old tree of liberty. And you couldn’t ask for nicer guys than the ones who shoot up temples if’n they are worshiped at by non-whites. West Point is a communist. Go to jail, West Point! Go directly to jail.

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