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    Default Baltimore City owned property honors Confederate general!

    This is 2013, why does Baltimore City own a park named after Robert E. Lee? I understand that there is more to Lee's life than just being a confederate general but he was a very important part of the Confederacy.

    Is this disrespectful to all the Union soldiers that lost life and limb in the Civil War? Should the park be named after someone else like Herman Williams, Harriet Tubman or another Maryland trailblazer?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_..._Memorial_Park

    Robert E. Lee Memorial Park is a park in Baltimore County, Maryland, located near the intersection of Falls Road and Lake Avenue, adjacent to the Falls Road Light Rail Stop. Though the park is located outside the limits of Baltimore city, it is owned by the city. However, it is currently leased to Baltimore County, Maryland.

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    so, what does that have to do with the price of tomatoes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    This is 2013, why does Baltimore City own a park named after Robert E. Lee? I understand that there is more to Lee's life than just being a confederate general but he was a very important part of the Confederacy.

    Is this disrespectful to all the Union soldiers that lost life and limb in the Civil War? Should the park be named after someone else like Herman Williams, Harriet Tubman or another Maryland trailblazer?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_..._Memorial_Park

    Robert E. Lee Memorial Park is a park in Baltimore County, Maryland, located near the intersection of Falls Road and Lake Avenue, adjacent to the Falls Road Light Rail Stop. Though the park is located outside the limits of Baltimore city, it is owned by the city. However, it is currently leased to Baltimore County, Maryland.
    Why do you care?

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    Default Name the park after somebody else.

    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    Why do you care?
    I am not loosing sleep over this but I don't think it is appropriate. Remember, the Confederacy did loose the war they started. Too many people died.

    Technically the Civil War may have been about keeping the Union together but real issue was slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    I am not loosing sleep over this but I think it is appropriate. Remember, the Confederacy did loose the war they started. Too many people died.

    Technically the Civil War may have been about keeping the Union together but real issue was slavery.
    Buy the park and name it after whom ever you choose

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    This is 2013, why does Baltimore City own a park named after Robert E. Lee? I understand that there is more to Lee's life than just being a confederate general but he was a very important part of the Confederacy.

    Is this disrespectful to all the Union soldiers that lost life and limb in the Civil War? Should the park be named after someone else like Herman Williams, Harriet Tubman or another Maryland trailblazer?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_..._Memorial_Park

    Robert E. Lee Memorial Park is a park in Baltimore County, Maryland, located near the intersection of Falls Road and Lake Avenue, adjacent to the Falls Road Light Rail Stop. Though the park is located outside the limits of Baltimore city, it is owned by the city. However, it is currently leased to Baltimore County, Maryland.
    How does this affect your life?

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    Default I am glad the Union won the Civil War!

    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    How does this affect your life?
    Like many things on this board or in the news it doesn't affect my life directly. But that doesn't mean I don't have an opinion.

    Are you suggesting something must affect someone's life in order to post it on these boards?

    You may think it's appropriate to honor a Confederate general but I would rather we didn't. I am not demonizing Robert E. Lee or suggesting other aspect of his life be ignored.

    I am questioning if a man that led rebel troops in an invasion of Maryland should be honored with a park in Maryland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    Like many things on this board or in the news it doesn't affect my life directly. But that doesn't mean I don't have an opinion.

    Are you suggesting something must affect someone's life in order to post it on these boards?

    You may think it's appropriate to honor a Confederate general but I would rather we didn't. I am not demonizing Robert E. Lee or suggesting other aspect of his life be ignored.

    I am questioning if a man that led rebel troops in an invasion of Maryland should be honored with a park in Maryland!
    There are statues of Lee and Jackson too near Hopkins, should those be torn down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    There are statues of Lee and Jackson too near Hopkins, should those be torn down.
    It wouldn't bother me at all if they were removed. I am glad their side lost the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    It wouldn't bother me at all if they were removed. I am glad their side lost the Civil War.
    Not surprised that someone who doesn't believe people have a right to a government of their own choosing would have no problem with destroying private property that offends them.

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    MDCivilServant--

    You're just finding this out? I hope you haven't read the lyrics of the state song!

    Smokey--

    Is that private property? Who owns it?
    Dieser Weg wird kein leichter sein; dieser Weg wird steinig und schwer.
    Nicht mit vielen wirst du dir einig sein, doch dieses Leben bietet so viel mehr. --Xavier Naidoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    MDCivilServant--

    You're just finding this out? I hope you haven't read the lyrics of the state song!

    Smokey--

    Is that private property? Who owns it?
    Not sure who owns it but I am pretty sure it is on private property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    Not surprised that someone who doesn't believe people have a right to a government of their own choosing would have no problem with destroying private property that offends them.
    What are you talking about? I don't want to destroy anything. I wrote that it wouldn't bother me if they were removed.

    If the statues are privately owned and on private property it is their business to decide what to do with the statues.

    I am not sure what you mean by people having the right to a government of their own choosing. Blacks and women couldn't choose because they couldn't vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    This is 2013, why does Baltimore City own a park named after Robert E. Lee? I understand that there is more to Lee's life than just being a confederate general but he was a very important part of the Confederacy.

    Is this disrespectful to all the Union soldiers that lost life and limb in the Civil War? Should the park be named after someone else like Herman Williams, Harriet Tubman or another Maryland trailblazer?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_..._Memorial_Park

    Robert E. Lee Memorial Park is a park in Baltimore County, Maryland, located near the intersection of Falls Road and Lake Avenue, adjacent to the Falls Road Light Rail Stop. Though the park is located outside the limits of Baltimore city, it is owned by the city. However, it is currently leased to Baltimore County, Maryland.
    Don't be so sensitive. I find it completely absurd that that BWI Airport was re-named after Thurgood Marshall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    I am not sure what you mean by people having the right to a government of their own choosing. Blacks and women couldn't choose because they couldn't vote.
    The fact that slaves and women couldn't vote didn't invalidate the right of self determination. If it did then the colonies had no right to independence from GB.

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    It is evident that Smokey's notion of autonomy extends only to white oppressors. No doubt that the Haitian Slave Revolts chafe Smokey as he contemplates those sorrowful Frenchmen being deprived of the pursuit of happiness by their former bondservants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    It is evident that Smokey's notion of autonomy extends only to white oppressors. No doubt that the Haitian Slave Revolts chafe Smokey as he contemplates those sorrowful Frenchmen being deprived of the pursuit of happiness by their former bondservants.
    Oh really, its evident that my notion of autonomy only extends to white oppressors? If that is what is evident to you then you have problems. That is the way things were then. We call that history. As a person of the 21st century I had nothing to do with that. I am just a history buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    The fact that slaves and women couldn't vote didn't invalidate the right of self determination. If it did then the colonies had no right to independence from GB.
    To defend the institution of slavery claiming it was self determination absurd. It was anything but self determination.

    I hope your not suggesting that slavery was just fine because other governments didn't allow very adult to vote.

    You don't need a history degree to know slavery was evil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerJohn View Post
    Don't be so sensitive. I find it completely absurd that that BWI Airport was re-named after Thurgood Marshall!
    You do? Why?

    Marshall was from Baltimore, and was a man of honor and integrity (unlike MLK).

    In fact, everything in MD named after MLK should be renamed for Thurgood Marshall, as he did much more for civil rights, integration, and equality in Maryland than MLK, and is a native son as well..

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