Women in combat

[songfourone]

I agree if the physical standards are not lowered and the same for everyone.

Is it true that not all men who meet the physical standards are able to perform all jobs?

[flyboy56]

A tribute to Navy Lt. Kara Spears (Revlon) Hultgreen. Was she pushed to hard for political reasons? If women want to join the combat ranks then expect no less neither no more than the male combatants. Train without prejudice or favoritism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLLqtvVXeWM

[Fang]

I'm all for women in the military, but I wouldn't want the average women I met when I served covering my back. This will only last until the first female bodies come back to Dover

Or worst yet they are prisoners of war and things happen.

[songfourone]

Or worst yet they are prisoners of war and things happen.

I suppose you haven't been keeping up with the news lately.

http://news.yahoo.com/house-committe...070120127.html

[songfourone]

They at least should be required to pass the same physical training standards as men without lowering the standards.

There should be a minimum standard as they have now, because not all males that past that are able to completely perform all duties either.

[Fang]

I suppose you haven't been keeping up with the news lately.

http://news.yahoo.com/house-committe...070120127.html

You've completely missed the point and didn't address the actual topic. No surprise though.

[Smokey 1]

There should be a minimum standard as they have now, because not all males that past that are able to completely perform all duties either.

They have two standards now, one for men and one for women. The lower standards they have now for women should be abolished and they should be held to the same standards as men. And yes, there are men who don't meet those standards.

[songfourone]

You've completely missed the point and didn't address the actual topic. No surprise though.

Actually you missed the entire point, you brought up the fact that women could become POW's and 'worse' things could happen to them, not a stretch to understand what that meant.

No surprise here that you hit that piñata first, and forgot what might come tumbling out.

[bmore_ken]

If someone goes through the physical training and passes, why shouldn't they be considered for combat?

Women don't have the same physical requirements that men do. That'll make them a liability

[songfourone]

They have two standards now, one for men and one for women. The lower standards they have now for women should be abolished and they should be held to the same standards as men. And yes, there are men who don't meet those standards.

Can all men do all physical intensive duties in the military?

[bmore_ken]

They have two standards now, one for men and one for women. The lower standards they have now for women should be abolished and they should be held to the same standards as men. And yes, there are men who don't meet those standards.

And when I was in those men were sent packing

[bullmikey]

They at least should be required to pass the same physical training standards as men without lowering the standards.

That's not likely. NPR already had some professor of woman's studies type on explaining how those standards are sexist and need to be redefined in order to promote the inclusion of women as combatants. Apparantly the present standards were deliberately designed by a male dominated society to ensure that only men were wrothy of being cannon fodder. The word wil go out that the military is to get with the program and make a glowing success of it, no matter what.

[Smokey 1]

Can all men do all physical intensive duties in the military?

See kens post.

[Retired Ramp Guy]

And when I was in those men were sent packing

Same here, sent to a different MOS.

The typing / cooking classes sure did fill up at times...

(thats a joke folks)

[bullmikey]

Can all men do all physical intensive duties in the military?

No. Those who can't usually know better than to join the infantry, or else they foolishly end up... Well, those of us who have been there know very well how they end up. We've seen it too often to think it funny anymore. It was a sad fact of life when I was in, a lot of NFGs never reached the 90 day mark. But that was back in the days when they burned up good people like they were so much kindling. Maybe it will be different now. Maybe.

[songfourone]

No. Those who can't usually know better than to join the infantry, or else they foolishly end up... Well, those of us who have been there know very well how they end up. We've seen it too often to think it funny anymore. It was a sad fact of life when I was in, a lot of NFGs never reached the 90 day mark. But that was back in the days when they burned up good people like they were so much kindling. Maybe it will be different now. Maybe.

That was not my question. My question was that after completing basic training, are there duties that those completing basic training that physically they are unable to complete?

[Struds]

That was not my question. My question was that after completing basic training, are there duties that those completing basic training that physically they are unable to complete?

Sure. Not every male who finishes basic will be able to thrive in the Infantry for example. Some will be assigned as 11B, but if they cannot keep up they won't advance in rank at the same pace as those who do, and at the end of their committment will either have to get out or find a more suitable MOS.

And, of course, not all good Infantrymen can be Rangers or SOF.

The Corps recently tried an experiment allowing 4 female LTs to attempt some sort of Infantry training. I'll try to find a link, but IIRC, none made it through.

[bullmikey]

That was not my question. My question was that after completing basic training, are there duties that those completing basic training that physically they are unable to complete?

Yes, of course, both physically and mentally.

[Struds]

Links to USMC women in Infantry test.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...rines/1600271/

http://www.thewomensbook.com/October...ntry-Training/

[workerbee]

F progress and F women! Gotta love conservatives.

War is hell and the last thing we should want are US female POWs. This is progress? While I love liberals... I'll never understand their warped way of thinking.