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    Once again Bernstein proves he has no respect for human life what so ever. Police are free to kill with impunity and this includes fellow officers. But you can't expect someone who elected on a platform of you can't criticize the police because they won't do their jobs to actually charge them with crimes.

    No charges against officers in death of Anthony Anderson during arrest

    No police officers will be charged in the high-profile homicide of an East Baltimore man who died from injuries he suffered while being arrested, Baltimore State’s Attorney Gregg L. Bernstein said Thursday.

    Anthony Anderson, 46, was thrown to the ground during a drug arrest on Sept. 21. At first, police said he died after swallowing or choking on drugs. But an autopsy, which showed eight broken ribs, lung bruises and spleen lacerations, said blunt force trauma killed him.

    His family had complained that police had been too rough, but Bernstein said Wednesday the officers acted within guidelines for police use of force.

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    I see a lawsuit coming

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    Baltimore, you wanted change in the attorney's office now you got it. A Black life means nothing in this office. Constant failures to prosecute officers, and coverups in his Jewish Community. You got what you voted for!

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    For what it's worth I have seen ruptured spleens (twice) and multiple broken ribs occur during high school wrestling matches where, in one case, it looked as if no force was being applied and the move being used was legal. I admit that the police have abused people in the past and still could do many things better but it is feasible that someone could have these injuries after being tackled or wrestled to the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmore108 View Post
    For what it's worth I have seen ruptured spleens (twice) and multiple broken ribs occur during high school wrestling matches where, in one case, it looked as if no force was being applied and the move being used was legal. I admit that the police have abused people in the past and still could do many things better but it is feasible that someone could have these injuries after being tackled or wrestled to the ground.
    Did the person die from those injuries? I'm also seeing conflicting accounts. One story says they believed he had choked on a bag of drugs. But this story says the officer tackled him with enough force to force the bag out of his mouth. The broken ribs and bruised lung provides for a violent expulsion of air that would have prevented him from swallowing anything. Also they have what they observed laying on the ground. So the other story is they thought he was losing conciousness because of a drug overdose. But what we don't know is if he made any kind of medical complaints, especially associated with the broken ribs and brusided lung which would caused him agony and difficulty in breathing, before losing conciousness. Did the police also explain to the paramedics that they took him down hard? You can put someone on the floor or you can put them through the floor. The injuries indicate that what the officers did was a lot closer to trying put him through the floor. Did IAD explore the possibility of his death being caused by omission like not seeking immediate medical attention for him or not telling the paramedics about taking him down hard?

    At the very least the department needs to reevaluate these obviously dangerous proceedures. Especially trying to prevent people from swallowing things. That present obvious choking hazards. Swallowing involves a bit of muscular acrobatics. If that does go exactly right you choke. If they swallow it and choke on their own. Then the Heimlich can be used. If that doesn't dislodge it then a tracheotomy will restore breathing. But if the officer does not try to prevent the swallowing. Then any choking is not something the officer could haved possibly caused. I've seen officer try to prevent people from swallowing things with choke holds. Usually grabbing them above the larynx trying to physically squeeze the throat shut. That can also can present dangers that could result in death. You would be surprized at how little pressure it takes to crush the Larynx. I have to admit that this is the first time I've even heard of someone trying to prevent swallowing with a bear hug. While you would be squeezing them hard enough to restrict breathing. It will not prevent swallowing. Breathing stops during swallowing. If it doesn't you choke. Also taking someone in a bear hug and slamming them to the ground is a presription for rib and lung injuries. In fact I can't really think of a better way to accomplish that.

    But there is one last hope for the justice that Bernstein is trying to deny. From the link above, "The Civil Rights division of the Department of Justice is still investigating the matter."

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    One kid almost did. And that was on top of a padded wrestling mat. I imagine this guy was tackled onto concrete and someone landed on top of him. That in and of itself is not overly violent, imho. Now, I agree if medical attention was not sought immediately then that's awful.

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    Shameful decision by Bernstein but I would expect no less from him. It's long overdue for the residents in these areas to take a stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmore108 View Post
    One kid almost did. And that was on top of a padded wrestling mat. I imagine this guy was tackled onto concrete and someone landed on top of him. That in and of itself is not overly violent, imho. Now, I agree if medical attention was not sought immediately then that's awful.
    I agree. Not too mention if he was an avid drug abuser his body more then likely wasn't in the best condition to take someone tackling them. At the end of the day, the people accusing the police of using too much force, are the same ones that never say anything when someone is robbing, stealing, and shooting others in the community. I am sure if he listened to the police instead of trying to swallow the drugs things may be different.

    I think the biggest complaint should be that there was no immediate medical attention provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spot72 View Post
    Shameful decision by Bernstein but I would expect no less from him. It's long overdue for the residents in these areas to take a stand.
    Biddle & Montford??? Against what? Drug dealers, users putting drugs in their mouths, the notorious mom and pop store which only opens late at night (if it's still there), or po-po tackling people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson34 View Post
    Baltimore, you wanted change in the attorney's office now you got it. A Black life means nothing in this office. Constant failures to prosecute officers, and coverups in his Jewish Community. You got what you voted for!
    Meanwhile, he still is better for Baltimore than Jessemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyHollman View Post
    Biddle & Montford??? Against what? Drug dealers, users putting drugs in their mouths, the notorious mom and pop store which only opens late at night (if it's still there), or po-po tackling people?
    The actions that were done to the deceased have been in play for decades by the "knockers" towards residents in certain neighborhoods in Baltimore. This is one of the leading causes of why residents in these neighborhoods will not co-operate with law enforcement.

    Three "knockers" placed handcuffs on Mr. Anderson and drove the undercover squad car up a few blocks and murdered this man in a empty lot. The officers are alive and can twist the story in 1,000 ways but the fact is that the man was killed in custody. The positive news is that The Department of Justice is currently looking into this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyHollman View Post
    Biddle & Montford??? Against what? Drug dealers, users putting drugs in their mouths, the notorious mom and pop store which only opens late at night (if it's still there), or po-po tackling people?
    Lady H has graced us with her presence. How have you been? I hope life has been treating you good.

    If these moves are no big deal them I would like to see a demonstration.......on Commissioner Batts. He can wear a shirt and jacket only. Take him in a bear hug and slam him to the ground. I'm gonna tell you right now you better have an Ambulance standing by because he will need it. At the very least he will come out of that with some very painful cracked ribs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spot72 View Post
    The actions that were done to the deceased have been in play for decades by the "knockers" towards residents in certain neighborhoods in Baltimore. This is one of the leading causes of why residents in these neighborhoods will not co-operate with law enforcement.

    Three "knockers" placed handcuffs on Mr. Anderson and drove the undercover squad car up a few blocks and murdered this man in a empty lot. The officers are alive and can twist the story in 1,000 ways but the fact is that the man was killed in custody. The positive news is that The Department of Justice is currently looking into this case.
    Have you came forward as a witness since you saw what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
    I agree. Not too mention if he was an avid drug abuser his body more then likely wasn't in the best condition to take someone tackling them. At the end of the day, the people accusing the police of using too much force, are the same ones that never say anything when someone is robbing, stealing, and shooting others in the community. I am sure if he listened to the police instead of trying to swallow the drugs things may be different.

    I think the biggest complaint should be that there was no immediate medical attention provided.
    In this case Mr. Anderson was not a willing participant in a sporting event. He had a right to be free of government intrusion. Especially a government intrusion that could cause serious physical injury or death. Mr. Anderson suffered both. Also pre-existing medical conditions would be irrelevant. They would only need to prove that Mr. Anderson's death was a result of the officer's actions. The bruised lung and ruptured spleen means the officer impared the function of not one but two bodily organs. That's one more bodily organ than is needed for first degree assault and the statute has no police exemption. This crime of first degree assult resulted in Mr Andersons death and that would be involuntary manslaughter. More specifically constructive manslaughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    In this case Mr. Anderson was not a willing participant in a sporting event. He had a right to free of government intrusion. Especially a government intrusion that could cause serious physical injury or death. Mr. Anderson suffered both. Also pre-existing medical conditions would be irrelevant. They woudl only need to prove that Mr. Anderson's death was a result of the officers actions. The bruised lung and ruptured spleen means the officer impared the function of not one but two bodily organs. That's one more bodily organ than is needed for first degree assault and the statute has no police exemption. This crime of first degree assult resulted in Mr Andersons death and that would be involuntary manslaughter. More specifically constructive manslaughter.
    Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spot72 View Post
    The actions that were done to the deceased have been in play for decades by the "knockers" towards residents in certain neighborhoods in Baltimore. This is one of the leading causes of why residents in these neighborhoods will not co-operate with law enforcement.

    Three "knockers" placed handcuffs on Mr. Anderson and drove the undercover squad car up a few blocks and murdered this man in a empty lot. The officers are alive and can twist the story in 1,000 ways but the fact is that the man was killed in custody. The positive news is that The Department of Justice is currently looking into this case.
    The "Knockers" are well known for their lack of respect for even the most basic human rights. Like the right to dignity which they have deprived suspects of by conducting strip searches in the middle of the street. Yes Ivan I have actually witnessed that and so did a friends 8 year old daughter. Words a father should never hear, "daddy why are there naked black men in the middle of the street?" They are also well known for overkill. They'll go after someone that sold a 20 rock like they were trying to stop someone from detonating a 20 megaton nuclear bomb.

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    Nothing worse than when an innocent, law abiding, hardworking member of society gets killed!

    00312927B6 Anderson, Anthony F 08/1966 Defendant Baltimore City District Court 1400 North Ave. CR APPEAL 05/29/1990
    00349984B5 Anderson, Anthony 08/1966 Defendant Baltimore City District Court 1400 North Ave. CR Closed 02/03/1991
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Lady H has graced us with her presence. How have you been? I hope life has been treating you good.

    If these moves are no big deal them I would like to see a demonstration.......on Commissioner Batts. He can wear a shirt and jacket only. Take him in a bear hug and slam him to the ground. I'm gonna tell you right now you better have an Ambulance standing by because he will need it. At the very least he will come out of that with some very painful cracked ribs.
    Hiya Wiz!!! I'm fine thanks. You seem to be doing alright, yes?

    Don't know about the moves used but that seems to be one strong "knocker".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spot72 View Post
    The actions that were done to the deceased have been in play for decades by the "knockers" towards residents in certain neighborhoods in Baltimore. This is one of the leading causes of why residents in these neighborhoods will not co-operate with law enforcement.

    Three "knockers" placed handcuffs on Mr. Anderson and drove the undercover squad car up a few blocks and murdered this man in a empty lot. The officers are alive and can twist the story in 1,000 ways but the fact is that the man was killed in custody. The positive news is that The Department of Justice is currently looking into this case.
    Is that so? Well, you may want to tell a particular "TLA rep" about that last tidbit IF you saw it yourself.

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    I'm not buying this one bit. This is exactly why the community will not cooperate with the police. What is the use of telling them anything? They are only going to listen to what they want to hear. There are witnesses that say they saw the officer slam him to ground and kick him. There is your first degree assault providing for involuntary manslaughter. But that was complettely disregarded. These are not warm fuzzy cuddly huggy people. They are sooner put your face through a wall than look at you kind of people. You would think Roid Rage was a requirement for the now disbanded Violent Crime Impact Section. This is appropriate force to stop someone from walking way? This is appropriate for disobeying an order to stop? He was not resisting arrest and because he was not running or driving away from them. They can't even really say he was in flight. At worst he simply did not comply with an order to stop and now he's dead.

    You would think that the Medical Examiner would look at the totality of the circumstances and rule the death an accident if that what it truly was. Just like Doctor G looked at the totallity of the circumstances and ruled Caylee Anthony's death a homicide even though she couldn't determine a cause of death. That regardless of how she died it was a homicide. In this case the Medical Examiner was able to determine a cause of death and even with the totality of the circumstances he ruled the death a homicide. But even when it comes to the Medical Examiners determination they only hear what they want to hear. Since Bernstein is disputing the Medical Examiners ruling of homicide by issuing his own determination that it was an accidental death. I think there should be a coroner's inquest and let the coroner's jury decide if it was an accidental death and there will be no prosecution or if it was a homicide and there will be a prosecution by a Special Prosecutor. In fact I think the family should demand a Coroners Inquest.

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