Bernstein Reaffirms Police License To Kill

[Omaha Beach]

In this case Mr. Anderson was not a willing participant in a sporting event. He had a right to be free of government intrusion. Especially a government intrusion that could cause serious physical injury or death. Mr. Anderson suffered both. Also pre-existing medical conditions would be irrelevant. They would only need to prove that Mr. Anderson's death was a result of the officer's actions. The bruised lung and ruptured spleen means the officer impared the function of not one but two bodily organs. That's one more bodily organ than is needed for first degree assault and the statute has no police exemption. This crime of first degree assult resulted in Mr Andersons death and that would be involuntary manslaughter. More specifically constructive manslaughter.

Constructive manslaughter? Please tell me what section of the criminal law article of the annotated code of maryland mentions any such crime. Dont you ever tire of playing at being a lawyer? He had illegal possession of narcotics and was fleeing the police and resisting arrest and you say he had a RIGHT to be free of government intrusion? You are hilarious without im sure intending to be.

One less drug dealing hoodlum polluting the City. Oh the horror!

[Jeebus]

If this thug drug dealer was killed by another thug drug dealer, would anyone care?

Of course not, bmore_ken tell us all the time that these deaths don't matter to him and others, it's just criminals killing criminals.

So why when the same drug-dealing thug dies under questionable circumstances....why does anyone care now?

Shocker, because there is the possibility of a family payday from the po-po involved.

U.F.B.

[Jeebus]

Dont you ever tire of playing at being a lawyer? He had illegal possession of narcotics and was fleeing the police and resisting arrest and you say he had a RIGHT to be free of government intrusion? You are hilarious without im sure intending to be.
!

Wiz is still waiting for Conaway case against Adam M to be granted certiorari by SCOTUS.

[Omaha Beach]

If this thug drug dealer was killed by another thug drug dealer, would anyone care?

Of course not, bmore_ken tell us all the time that these deaths don't matter to him and others, it's just criminals killing criminals.

So why when the same drug-dealing thug dies under questionable circumstances....why does anyone care now?

Shocker, because there is the possibility of a family payday from the po-po involved.

U.F.B.

This loser' s life now only has value because he was killed by the pooolice! You are right on.

[Omaha Beach]

Wiz is still waiting for Conaway case against Adam M to be granted certiorari by SCOTUS.

The miracle is that any young man or woman would want to do such a dangerous thankless job as being a police officer in baltimore city. If the officer is sued im sure he will get a totally impartial jury of his " peers". Sure.

If these excessive force lawsuits were sent to another jurisdiction for trial, change of venue, rather than baltimore city, you would see the number of them drop off. No way in hell any officer can get a fair trial on Calvert street.

[Dub]

In this case Mr. Anderson was not a willing participant in a sporting event. He had a right to be free of government intrusion. Especially a government intrusion that could cause serious physical injury or death. Mr. Anderson suffered both. Also pre-existing medical conditions would be irrelevant. They would only need to prove that Mr. Anderson's death was a result of the officer's actions. The bruised lung and ruptured spleen means the officer impared the function of not one but two bodily organs. That's one more bodily organ than is needed for first degree assault and the statute has no police exemption. This crime of first degree assult resulted in Mr Andersons death and that would be involuntary manslaughter. More specifically constructive manslaughter.

I believe his death is a result of his actions from having drugs in his possession and also trying to hide or dispose of the drugs. I think his right of government intrusion goes out the window when he is doing something illegal, but that may just be me.

[bmore_ken]

If this thug drug dealer was killed by another thug drug dealer, would anyone care?

Of course not, bmore_ken tell us all the time that these deaths don't matter to him and others, it's just criminals killing criminals.

So why when the same drug-dealing thug dies under questionable circumstances....why does anyone care now?

Shocker, because there is the possibility of a family payday from the po-po involved.

U.F.B.

I still don't give a shiite

[Wizard777]

I believe his death is a result of his actions from having drugs in his possession and also trying to hide or dispose of the drugs. I think his right of government intrusion goes out the window when he is doing something illegal, but that may just be me.

Oh, he made them do it. That's not acceptable from a 6 year old more or less a police officer.

[Wizard777]

Constructive manslaughter? Please tell me what section of the criminal law article of the annotated code of maryland mentions any such crime. Dont you ever tire of playing at being a lawyer? He had illegal possession of narcotics and was fleeing the police and resisting arrest and you say he had a RIGHT to be free of government intrusion? You are hilarious without im sure intending to be.

One less drug dealing hoodlum polluting the City. Oh the horror!

Just because you don't understand doesn't mean I don't understand. Constructive Manslaughter AKA Unlawful Act Manslaughter is none the less Manslaughter just as involuntary and voluntary Manslaughter (also not mentioned) are none the less Manslaughter.

[Wizard777]

Hiya Wiz!!! I'm fine thanks. You seem to be doing alright, yes?

Don't know about the moves used but that seems to be one strong "knocker".

I'm hanging in there. None the worse for the wear.

What gets me is that they had some expert from LA give his opinion. He said that the move typically does not cause injury. But it can. It stands to reason that the move is not typically executed with excessive force and therefore typically does not cause injury. If it is improperly executed or done over zealously. I could see where that could cause some minor injuries. But when you have broken ribs, a brusied lung and a ruptured spleen. I don't see how that's not excessive force. If you have to gauge this on a scale. Where does excessive force place on that scale? When they have the same injuries as if they had fallen off a ten story building. Frankly I don't think their scale even had excessive force on it.

But it is becoming increasing clear that Bernstein thinks street justice is a valid form of Justice. Just like his supporters here. That Bernstein is willing to protect those officers who deliver that street justice his white yuppie constituency demands. The only thing that remains to be seen is if Commissioner Batts will also endorse that street justice and protect the officers that deliver street justice.

[russ498]

C'est la vie

*$%^*&# with the bull, you get the horn. No real loss to society.

[Omaha Beach]

Just because you don't understand doesn't mean I don't understand. Constructive Manslaughter AKA Unlawful Act Manslaughter is none the less Manslaughter just as involuntary and voluntary Manslaughter (also not mentioned) are none the less Manslaughter.

I understand you dont have a clue. Cite the section in the criminal law article of the annotated code of maryland that names, an offense known as constructive manslaughter.

[LadyHollman]

I'm hanging in there. None the worse for the wear.

What gets me is that they had some expert from LA give his opinion. He said that the move typically does not cause injury. But it can. It stands to reason that the move is not typically executed with excessive force and therefore typically does not cause injury. If it is improperly executed or done over zealously. I could see where that could cause some minor injuries. But when you have broken ribs, a brusied lung and a ruptured spleen. I don't see how that's not excessive force. If you have to gauge this on a scale. Where does excessive force place on that scale? When they have the same injuries as if they had fallen off a ten story building. Frankly I don't think their scale even had excessive force on it.

But it is becoming increasing clear that Bernstein thinks street justice is a valid form of Justice. Just like his supporters here. That Bernstein is willing to protect those officers who deliver that street justice his white yuppie constituency demands. The only thing that remains to be seen is if Commissioner Batts will also endorse that street justice and protect the officers that deliver street justice.

That's good to hear.

As for the moves, any move can cause injury. An arm bar "could" cause injury; however it usually doesn't. Endorphins are an interesting thing.

[Wizard777]

I understand you dont have a clue. Cite the section in the criminal law article of the annotated code of maryland that names, an offense known as constructive manslaughter.

Cite a section of Maryland Code that names the offenses of voluntary and involuntary manslaughter*. There is none. But you can still be charged with both because they are manslaughter. The same with constructive manslaughter.

* The provisions for by vehicle or vessle was Maryland recognizing that a vehicle or vessle can be used as a weapon.

[LadyHollman]

OT, but, Wiz, et al ... any posts from Kemmer lately?

[Wizard777]

That's good to hear.

As for the moves, any move can cause injury. An arm bar "could" cause injury; however it usually doesn't. Endorphins are an interesting thing.

Adrenalin is more likely the culperate on being over zealous. But the severity of the injuries speaks volumes to the excessive nature of the force used. Bernstein acts as if there is no connection between the force used and injuries sustained. He's not only suspending the laws of the State of Maryland but the laws of Physics as well. So there's a double damn on that. Even if the officer had no intent to kill Mr. Anderson. That's merly the difference between murder and manslaughter. Pre-existing medical conditions are irrelevant. An old lady can have 900 different heart conditions. Any one of which could kill her at any given second. But if you snatch her purse and that causes her to have a heart attack and die. You're good on Manslaughter.

[Jeebus]

Cite a section of Maryland Code that names the offenses of voluntary and involuntary manslaughter*. There is none.

:sigh:

241 Manslaughter and Related Crimes

Manslaughter—involuntary
1-0910 Common law;
CR, §2-207
Felony 10Y Person IV $500

242 Manslaughter and Related Crimes

Manslaughter—voluntary
1-0910 CR, §2-207
Felony 10Y  Person IV $500

http://dhmh.maryland.gov/mha/Documents/offensetable.pdf

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/com...4.22.02.02.htm

[Wizard777]

OT, but, Wiz, et al ... any posts from Kemmer lately?

None that I remember. I think Kemmer went to another board when they put up the Paywall.

[county resident]

Definition of HOMICIDE

1
: a person who kills another
Homicide is not a crime. Murder is a crime And the states attorney makes the call as to what to charge.
Put on your dunce hat wizard. And get off your soap box

[Wizard777]

:sigh:




http://dhmh.maryland.gov/mha/Documents/offensetable.pdf

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/com...4.22.02.02.htm

Oh ho hum. That a criminal code for dummies sheet. They're usually issued to cops. Both involuntary and voluntary manslaughter on your dummies sheet are listed as CR, §2-207. That is the criminal code for "Manslaughter." You show me in CR, §2-207 where they mention voluntary and involuntary manslaughter as specific offenses. They don't. Manslaughter is illegal that includes the subcatagories of manslaughter which would be voluntary and involuntary manslaughter. There are also subcatagories of voluntary and involuntary manslaughter which are also illegal. There is voluntary manslaughter and a subcatagory of infanticide. With involuntary manslaughter the sub catagories are CONSTRUCTIVE MANSLAUGHTER, criminally negligent manslaughter, vehicular manslaughter and assisted suicide. Maryland code lists vehicular manslaughter as a specific offense even though in legal theory it is considered to be a form of involuntary manslaughter.

Please don't mistake your own ignorance for mine.