Man allegedly stabs wife hours after release on own recognizance

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Who is Erin Prizzy? And how many calls for service concerning DV has she handled as a primary Officer?

Sorry, I spelled it wrong so it might have made it harder for you to google.
Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

And she ran what is widely considered to be the second "women's shelter" in the entire world, so I'm quite willing to bet she knows far more than you do.

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Well, the so-called Lt. should know by now (her being in charge of a Domestic Violence unit and all) that its a matter of hopelessness and a -1000 level self-esteem. The abused is afraid to the point of terror ... and s/he knows they are on their own.

You probably took a Psychology course. Remember the dog experiment [they like to torture dogs for some reason] where they locked it in a room and applied shocks to the floor over a long period of time? Then one day they left he door open and applied the floor shocks? The dog just stayed there in the room even though it could have left? Its like that.

Some lady went and got a Protective Order, yes? That paper gonna keep a psycho away? Noooooope! She's dead too. Remember a crazy abuser is most likely a narcissist.

Also bear in mind, the court will order all firearms to be removed from a location in most DV situations ... so you got nothing if the abuser returns.

Anyhow, its DUMB to say what was said because its a matter of much more. Its not like the abusive one doesn't know where the victim lives, family, friends, fave grocery store, etc. Plus the punishments for DV are as worthless as those for DWI.

You keep forgetting he was actually locked away for a month. And that's only what we know of - we don't know what happened in Massachusetts. But with organizations like Jane Doe available, I sincerely doubt she lacked any help. She was apparently uncooperative here, why would she be cooperative there? Thus, I think its safe to assume she bears some responsibility for this outcome.

[LadyHollman]

Sorry, I spelled it wrong so it might have made it harder for you to google.
Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

And she ran what is widely considered to be the second "women's shelter" in the entire world, so I'm quite willing to bet she knows far more than you do.

So she handled some calls then? Noooope.

I'm sure she did an outstanding job providing services and counseling help to the ladies in dire need. Her conclusions based on a sample populace in China are erroneous, IMO.

[LadyHollman]

You keep forgetting he was actually locked away for a month. And that's only what we know of - we don't know what happened in Massachusetts. But with organizations like Jane Doe available, I sincerely doubt she lacked any help. She was apparently uncooperative here, why would she be cooperative there? Thus, I think its safe to assume she bears some responsibility for this outcome.

A whole month, eh? Well, you can assume what you want.

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So she handled some calls then? Noooope.

I'm sure she did an outstanding job providing services and counseling help to the ladies in dire need. Her conclusions based on a sample populace in China are erroneous, IMO.

The Chiswick women's shelter was in Britain.

[Lawman 27]

Sorry, I spelled it wrong so it might have made it harder for you to google.
Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

And she ran what is widely considered to be the second "women's shelter" in the entire world, so I'm quite willing to bet she knows far more than you do.

Not too sure about what qualifications that means.

I was transporting a victim to the House of Ruth one fine day, so I called to get directions. Being that I have an EVIL MALE voice, the receptionist refused to give me any help. I explained that she could call my Police station, and give them the directions but that was not good enough.

My point is that there are a number of honest caring shelters in the area and there are a number of screw ups trying to make a name for themselves. You need to know which is which.
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Good Officers will make detailed reports of what the DV case is about, and will take good pictures too. Some Judges will allow the 'excited utterance' exception to the hearsay rule (which allows comments that the victim made at the time of the report to be added into court by the Officer). Even then you still have to deal with the usual BS that defines the Baltimore City Court system.

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Not too sure about what qualifications that means.

I was transporting a victim to the House of Ruth one fine day, so I called to get directions. Being that I have an EVIL MALE voice, the receptionist refused to give me any help. I explained that she could call my Police station, and give them the directions but that was not good enough.

My point is that there are a number of honest caring shelters in the area and there are a number of screw ups trying to make a name for themselves. You need to know which is which.
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Good Officers will make detailed reports of what the DV case is about, and will take good pictures too. Some Judges will allow the 'excited utterance' exception to the hearsay rule (which allows comments that the victim made at the time of the report to be added into court by the Officer). Even then you still have to deal with the usual BS that defines the Baltimore City Court system.

I don't know what you want, Lawman.
The point is, here is someone who was responsible , in large part, for founding the entire anti-domestic violence movement, and she was driven out of it (threats on her life, natch!) because she dared to say that in her experience:
A. Some men needed help.
B. Some women could be the aggressors
C. Most Domestic violence was somewhat a mutual affair
D. And some women, for whatever reason, repeatedly would get into these types of relationships even when help was offered

The people who ended up taking over the "shelter movement" (as it was called in Britain) believed basically none of these things, and ended up with a single theory of patriarchal entitlement that was supposed to explain all domestic violence. Class men, versus class women.

In THIS country basically the same thing occurred, though not so radical a face was put on it. If you don't believe me, just google "Duluth model of domestic violence" and go from there. Or you can simply read stories like this one:

http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/news/...r-finally.html

Here's the most important and outrageous part: "Ingram was stabbed three times by his girlfriend, Diane M. Romano, on Nov. 4, after an argument at their home on Van Norwick Avenue in Batavia, according to police. Romano, who police say also knifed her 19-year-old son, was charged with three felony counts. Ingram was hospitalized with two punctured lungs. Romano, 38, bonded out and went home.

Now I don't care what you think about Ingram. He was an abuser before of a prior girlfriend, maybe he almost deserved to get one who likes to get all stabby with a knife, even though he apparently never used a deadly weapon himself on anyone. But her 19 year old son AS WELL?! And she gets out on bond? Even the guy in the case this thread is about was in jail BEFORE he ever decided to use a knife...female sentencing discount? Don't believe women can abuse men or be a danger to them? Who knows what explains this.


Anyway, to conclude about Ms. Pizzey's qualifications: She was there at the very beginning, dealt with many victims personally, and has consulted for different governments over the years on this issue, as well as having written at least one book. I'd consider her an expert.