Joe Flacco or Matt Ryan

[can you hear me now!]

You mean he's not a good enough QB to lead his team to a Super Bowl one year, and to within one pass right in his WRs hands the year before, and to the playoffs for 5 straight years?

Oh, wait...

you are going to make f(h)ail cry if you keep introducing facts....obviously pass completion percentage is so important, why else would a QB with a 70% completion rate be benched in favor of 2nd year qb with no starts...yep, it's all about completion percentage...Just ask Alex Smith.....

when your team sucks you have to figure out a way to make yourself feel better about your trainwreck of a team and f(h)ail chooses to try to minimize the accomplishments of Flacco.....

if he's lucky, the deadskins should make another post season appearance around 2026....

[Eastside Terp]

I am glad we have joe but I think ryan is a heck of a qb as well .....

I think if Ryan had been on the ravens that past 5 years we would have achieved similar things ......

until last year and this year Joe was along for the ride in the playoffs ......

[OriginalColtsFan]

I am glad we have joe but I think ryan is a heck of a qb as well .....

I think if Ryan had been on the ravens that past 5 years we would have achieved similar things ......

until last year and this year Joe was along for the ride in the playoffs ......

Ryan isn't Boller, but:

1. Joe has a bigger arm
2. Joe is cooler under pressure than Ryan
3. Ryan has more bona fide weapons than Joe. So I see the exact opposite of what you're saying: Put JOE with those weapons the past few years, and Atlanta at LEAST goes deeper into the playoffs, in not all the way. As it stands, they have one -- ONE -- playoff win compared to Joe's record. It's no contest, really.

[OriginalColtsFan]

you are going to make f(h)ail cry if you keep introducing facts....obviously pass completion percentage is so important, why else would a QB with a 70% completion rate be benched in favor of 2nd year qb with no starts...yep, it's all about completion percentage...Just ask Alex Smith.....

when your team sucks you have to figure out a way to make yourself feel and f(h)ail chooses to try to minimize the accomplishments of Flacco.....

if he's lucky, the deadskins should make another post season appearance around 2026....

It's okay with me if he cries.

[dreamjo]

I am glad we have joe but I think ryan is a heck of a qb as well .....

I think if Ryan had been on the ravens that past 5 years we would have achieved similar things ......

until last year and this year Joe was along for the ride in the playoffs ......

hmmm...funny how that coincides with the Ravens drafting effective speed at WR.

Ryan's isn't Boller, but:

1. Joe has a bigger arm
2. Joe is cooler under pressure than Ryan
3. Ryan has more bona fide weapons than Joe. So I see the exact opposite of what you're saying: Put JOE with those weapons the past few years, and Atlanta at LEAST goes deeper into the playoffs, in not all the way. As it stands, they have one -- ONE -- playoff win compared to Joe's record. It's no contest, really.

Ryan with Mark Clayton and Derrick Mason as his #1 and #2 would have been...interesting.

[Peej7245]

I don't hate Flacco. I just know he is what he is and not what you want him to be.

You don't know squat! You are the reincarnation of Locker Combo and act like a Ravens hater just to annoy people.

Flacco is one of the two SB quarterbacks this season and that irritates you to no end! GOOD!

[Peej7245]

hmmm...funny how that coincides with the Ravens drafting effective speed at WR.

Key word there is "effective". Remember Stallworth? He had speed too!

Ryan with Mark Clayton and Derrick Mason as his #1 and #2 would have been...interesting.

Actually, Ryan could not make the tight outside throws that Flacco seemed to make every week. Ryan is an accurate passer but not as powerful. Flacco might not be as accurate in the short game (although I suspect he is more accurate than given credit), but he has become one of the most dangerous long ball qbs around.

[Brohan]

You don't know squat! You are the reincarnation of Locker Combo and act like a Ravens hater just to annoy people.

Flacco is one of the two SB quarterbacks this season and that irritates you to no end! GOOD!

He isn't really a troll; just a windbag who thinks people care about what he has to say...like most people from that hell hole NOVA.

[Far from home]

For fantasy football, I'd take Ryan.

For reality, I'd take Flacco.

This.

[HAIL2BNG]

you are going to make f(h)ail cry if you keep introducing facts....obviously pass completion percentage is so important, why else would a QB with a 70% completion rate be benched in favor of 2nd year qb with no starts...yep, it's all about completion percentage...Just ask Alex Smith.....

when your team sucks you have to figure out a way to make yourself feel and f(h)ail chooses to try to minimize the accomplishments of Flacco.....

if he's lucky, the deadskins should make another post season appearance around 2026....

Very mature. You win. He's the second coming of Johnny u. I hope you make him the highest paid QB in the league.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Very mature. You win. He's the second coming of Johnny u. I hope you make him the highest paid QB in the league.

So says HAIL2BNGaBaltimoreHater. Let it be said, let it be written on this Baltimore based forum.. Do you have a goal of pi$$ing off a set number of Baltimore fans per day?? If so, you have met your quota for today.

[HAIL2BNG]

If he isn't the highest paid QB in the league next year it will be a crime.

[DColeman]

Flat Matt< FLacco

[can you hear me now!]

Very mature. You win. He's the second coming of Johnny u. I hope you make him the highest paid QB in the league.

I didn't say that....but why let that stop you from going to extremes...it's all you have left....no one said he should be the highest paid qb in the league....

maybe you can enlighten us by explaining why a QB with a 70% completion percentage was replaced by a guy who only completes 62% of his passes...I realize being a 'skunks fan winning has become more or less a bonus, so I don't expect to answer with the truth...so explain away....

[HAIL2BNG]

I didn't say that....but why let that stop you from going to extremes...it's all you have left....no one said he should be the highest paid qb in the league....

maybe you can enlighten us by explaining why a QB with a 70% completion percentage was replaced by a guy who only completes 62% of his passes...I realize being a 'skunks fan winning has become more or less a bonus, so I don't expect to answer with the truth...so explain away....

Skunks fan? You're getting more mature as the weekend rolls along. If you're talking about Smith and Kaepernick, who knows? Ask the other ****** brother why he made the move. There were plenty of people who disagreed with it.

Flacco should be the highest paid QB. You guys keep telling me how great he is. Why wouldn't he be? I know my team hasn't won that much so that clearly makes you a better, smarter more awesome fan (Balmer logic 101) so you will have to explain why he shouldn't be the highest paid QB if that is the case. Afterall, he beat Peyton and Brady ALL BY HIMSELF.

[Ravens2006]

I don't see many people saying Flacco is the best QB in football. Not sure where that impression comes from. But those who think he's "just mediocre" give the impression that they know absolutely NOTHING about the game, and can't understand what they see.

[OriginalColtsFan]

I don't see many people saying Flacco is the best QB in football. Not sure where that impression comes from. But those who think he's "just mediocre" give the impression that they know absolutely NOTHING about the game, and can't understand what they see.

You mean, like West Chester Raven, who said the Ravens should trade for Alex Smith (yes...the same Alex Smith who will be holding the clip board next Sunday in the Super Bowl), because Joe Flacco was just mediocre? And who can't even man up and vote in this poll because his mangina is still stinging after being exposed for the poseur that he is?

[AFKAR7]

Flacco should be the highest paid QB. You guys keep telling me how great he is. Why wouldn't he be?

Well then using your logic shouldn't Washington tear up Griffins contract and make him the highest paid QB of all time? After all you did say he was going to redefine the position.

Yes. I think Luck will be great. I think Griffin will redefine the position.

I think any and all comparisons to Vick are ignorant and myopic. His talent exceeds Vick and his character and intelligence are not even comparable. Despite the scheme he is in this season, I would compare him more to Steve Young.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I don't see many people saying Flacco is the best QB in football. Not sure where that impression comes from. But those who think he's "just mediocre" give the impression that they know absolutely NOTHING about the game, and can't understand what they see.

Wow, you must have looked up the Sunspot Dictionary Definition of: HAIL2BNG, formerly AKA Yanky Dave and BBinDC03.

[can you hear me now!]

Skunks fan? You're getting more mature as the weekend rolls along. If you're talking about Smith and Kaepernick, who knows? Ask the other ****** brother why he made the move. There were plenty of people who disagreed with it.

Flacco should be the highest paid QB. You guys keep telling me how great he is. Why wouldn't he be? I know my team hasn't won that much so that clearly makes you a better, smarter more awesome fan (Balmer logic 101) so you will have to explain why he shouldn't be the highest paid QB if that is the case. Afterall, he beat Peyton and Brady ALL BY HIMSELF.

just trying to get down to your level so I can find the unique perspective you seem to have....I never claimed to be smarter than you or a better fan...treading into Moon territory with that tired refrain...don't like 'skunks...then you should not have referred to flacco as 50/50....you went first and like I said, I have to get down to your level.....

good non answer on Smith--- I'll tell you why--- WINNING.....Smith couldn't take them to where Kaepernick has....the NFL is about WINNING...I knew you'd avoid the truth....and you still haven't explained why these two very inaccurate qbs---Elway (54%) and Bradshaw (51%) are in the Hall of Fame with such terrible numbers...again...WINNING comes into play....

never said he beat either team by himself...you keep reaching and you keep missing....as far as a contract...he's doesn't need to be the highest paid as long as he gets fair market value...you do understand that concept, right?

here chew on this--- When Flacco hoists the Lombardi next Sunday, he will have exactly the same amount of playoff wins and SB wins as Peyton Manning....pretty regular season numbers mean nothing come the playoffs..the golf analogy of driving for show, putting for dough applies here...

you are the one that keeps harping on a subject where you are clearly wrong....that's clearly a boobie jr move....