Rig the vote

[soulflower]

The GOP doesn't even try to hide their attempts to steal elections anymore:

The Washington Post reported Thursday that the sponsor of Virginia bill’s, Charles W. Carrico Sr., a Republican, “said he wants to give smaller communities a bigger voice.” Carrico told The Post, “The last election, constituents were concerned that it didn’t matter what they did, that more densely populated areas were going to outvote them.”

Yes, you read that right: he wants to make the votes cast for the candidate receiving the fewest votes matter more than those cast for the candidate receiving the most. In Republican Bizarro World, where the “integrity of the vote” is a phrase used to diminish urban votes and in which democracy is only sacrosanct if Republicans are winning, this statement actually makes sense.

David Weigel of Slate explained the point of the Virginia plan this way: “Make the rural vote matter more and make the metro vote count less.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/26/op...e.html?hp&_r=0

[ms maggie]

Cooler heads are prevailing. Haley Barbour has spoken out against this as has the Gov of Virginia and I believe Florida.

The idea that the same people who were flapping their gums about the fiction of voter fraud are now behind this: well if the agenda here isn't crystal clear to you, you are one dumb s.o.b.

[kandace]

The GOP continually attempts to disenfranchise large chunks of the electorate and then wonders why those segments of the population revile it.

[Contumacious]

The GOP doesn't even try to hide their attempts to steal elections anymore:

Yo Soul

are you really concerned about rigged elections?

Should those who are government employees and those who are receiving welfare type benefits vote?

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[pickles]

Yo Soul

are you really concerned about rigged elections?

Should those who are government employees and those who are receiving welfare type benefits vote?

.

So you don't think the Armed Forces should be elibigle to vote?

[Contumacious]

So you don't think the Armed Forces should be elibigle to vote?

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower
January 17, 1961

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[soulflower]

Yo Soul

are you really concerned about rigged elections?

Should those who are government employees and those who are receiving welfare type benefits vote?

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I thought you were a pro-Constitution guy. Why are you implying that you're ok with allowing the government to rollback civil rights?

[EmDot]

Should those who are government employees and those who are receiving welfare type benefits vote?

Stupid statement IMO.

[bmorepunk]

I thought you were a pro-Constitution guy. Why are you implying that you're ok with allowing the government to rollback civil rights?

If you're a strict old-school pro-Constitution type, you shouldn't believe that anybody who isn't a white male with ownership rights should be voting.

[bmore_ken]

Stupid statement IMO.

Sadly it's his normal stuff

[Calamari]

In other words "adjust the votes until Republicans win."

[cprenegade]

This will never stand. But in reality it is really no worse than the gerrymandering that states like Maryland do to insure that their party wins as many seats as possible in congress. Republicans do the same thing in red states. Let's stop all of these attempts at tilting the playing field and start insuring that rules are in place to benefit the overall public instead of the two corrupt parties.

[kudzu]

“Make the rural vote matter more and make the metro vote count less.”

Very unconstitutional, I know.

But the sentiment is valid. Since the urban and suburban constituents have gone insane.

[Contumacious]

I thought you were a pro-Constitution guy. Why are you implying that you're ok with allowing the government to rollback civil rights?

Mr. Soulflower

As per usual , you are wrong in so many ways.

The purpose of suffrage is to elect an official or representative. That's is it.

In our Constitutional Republic the people have 100% of the rights , so the people do not vote to acquire rights.

Unfortunately, however, the US became a "democracy" in the early 1900's .

So now the FASCISTS AND PARASITIC FACTIONS use voting as a tool to - acquire additional "rights " which consist of depriving producers of their wealth and other Constitutional rights.

Taxpayers must now work until July to pay for the welfare/warfare state.

And if a retard murders 26 people, then my right to defend my life using an AK47 and a High Capacity Magazine is suddenly threatened.

So I fully understand why "voting" , when you guys constitute over 51% of the electorate, is important .

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[georjec2]

The GOP doesn't even try to hide their attempts to steal elections anymore:

If you can't beat em cheat em.

The liberal media is going to expose this travesty and hopefully it will sink with a thud.

Centrist republicans have got to feel embarrassed at the tricks, scams and shams their far right party members are trying to pull over the American public again, this time.

[georjec2]

Mr. Soulflower

As per usual , you are wrong in so many ways.

The purpose of suffrage is to elect an official or representative. That's is it.

In our Constitutional Republic the people have 100% of the rights , so the people do not vote to acquire rights.

Unfortunately, however, the US became a "democracy" in the early 1900's .

So now the FASCISTS AND PARASITIC FACTIONS use voting as a tool to - acquire additional "rights " which consist of depriving producers of their wealth and other Constitutional rights.

Taxpayers must now work until July to pay for the welfare/warfare state.

And if a retard murders 26 people, then my right to defend my life using an AK47 and a High Capacity Magazine is suddenly threatened.

So I fully understand why "voting" , when you guys constitute over 51% of the electorate, is important .

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What if you are as fanatical as you sound.

[cprenegade]

If you can't beat em cheat em.

The liberal media is going to expose this travesty and hopefully it will sink with a thud.

Centrist republicans have got to feel embarrassed at the tricks, scams and shams their far right party members are trying to pull over the American public again, this time.

They might. It's hard to say. I wonder if centrist democrats are embarrassed by tricks like the one O'Malley pulled that cost Bartlett re-election by changing his district to include a heavily democratic portion of Montgomery county. Or if they just said, it's legal so it's fair.

[ms maggie]

They might. It's hard to say. I wonder if centrist democrats are embarrassed by tricks like the one O'Malley pulled that cost Bartlett re-election by changing his district to include a heavily democratic portion of Montgomery county. Or if they just said, it's legal so it's fair.

I don't get the point of this kind of false equivalency. Everyone knows that both sides have gerrymandered for years. And the extent is absolutely embarrassing--be it MD or Texas.

This is a whole different kind of abuse. And yeah it is a Republican thing: lots of R takeovers of statehouses coinciding w the 2010 census and subsequent loss of Presidency. The reality of the changing demos in the country must finally be sinking in. The irony of course being that this kind of power grab will further alienate voters.

[TheResearcher]

Speaking of rigged elections, how is it that Hussein got more votes than there are voters in a number of places?

[Grindelwald]

Speaking of rigged elections, how is it that Hussein got more votes than there are voters in a number of places?

This has been debunked at least 100 times. [personal attack deleted]