To my knowledge, only the Almighty can read minds.Originally Posted by Wizard777
I am pointing out that younger people may not look at the totality of the circumstances before coming to a conclusion. This has nothing to do with race, etc...It has to do with younger people being quicker to decide something based on limited facts.
Over the years the department has come to resent Officers with those principles.
Therein lies another rub...The City has shown it is more than happy to give out large sums of money, no matter what the reality was. That means many cops are afraid to do their jobs for fear of being involved in a law suit.Originally Posted by Omaha Beach
Do you remember the lady who sued for excessive force at Reisterstown Rd Plaza? She claimed the Officer threw her down thus breaking her arm. Only thing was, NO ONE (Civilian or Officer) witnessed her incident. NO VIDEO camera recorded her incident. CBIF (which is quick to refuse suspects who are injured) did not know about the broken arm AND OH, BY THE WAY...The X-rays showed no break. That did not stop the City from giving her a $10K payday. (A week after the payout, she was in the news claiming another story too).
Now I have already said that these Officers were wrong, I am saying:
1) It makes the job of the (few remaining) honest Cops harder.
2) It makes the City look like they are quick to pay out if the case is real or not.
Here are my questions:
What is wrong with the City hiring Officers of integrity?
What is wrong with the City hiring Officers of honor and moral values?
What is wrong with the City hiring Officers who want to be there?
I could just as easily ask:
Why does the department see such Officers as a threat?
Why does the department do all it can to rid itself of such Officers?
Why does the department not want to hire such Officers?
Where are you going Pookie? I'm going out to get the cops to kidnap me so I can get paid. How are you going to do that Pookie? Uuuuuuh, back to the drawing board.
You should know me better than that...
I am not saying that a youngster will try to get kidnapped to get a bonus. I am saying that, the kids might assume a payday in other aspects.
Kids already know that they can disrepect Police at the Inner Harbor and get away with it, they know they can run down old people with dirtbikes and get away with it. Why can't a youngster therefore commit a crime, get his friends to film the arrest, go 'off' on the Officer and try for a payout because the Officer fought to control the arrest?
Yes, we all know there are plenty of frivolous and out and out false complaints about officers doing their jobs properly. That's a given. The vast majority of police officers are dedicated professionals and perform thier duties reflective of that.
But, imho, in this PARTICULAR case, the officers were unquestionably wrong.
To link, consider or discuss # 1 in conjunction with #2 is just disingenuous.
I don't know if I'm articulating my thoughts clearly, but maybe another way to put it is you're hitching your horse to the wrong cart.
Or, it kind of reminds me of the old argument like between Repubs and Dems, when one transgresses, the defense is "but they do it too" or "but let me tell you what they did" when the former has nothing to do with the latter. What do the smart guys call it, a non-sequiter or something like that?
I don't necessarily think he was a bad cop. I just think his opinions are colored by whatever he experienced when he was an officer. He seems to have an ax to grind against the city as well as the people of Baltimore because of whatever he experienced. He sort of hurts his credibility(and personally I respect him greatly most of the time) with statements like young kids are committing crimes in order to goad an officer into doing something that they can sue for as opposed to talking about what should be the real issue of the case which is the unprofessional conduct of the officers.
I'll just leave another little tidbit----- not all , shall we say, "gruff" officers are quite as "gruff" as they project, they may just be venting, coping, or engaging in gallows humor, ala " MASH".
I can only imagine what that job entails on a daily basis, especially in Baltimore City. I jumped out of perfectly good airplanes, marched in 0 degree temperatures with snow up the ying yang, and slept outside on 90 degree nights and I'd still do that stuff all day , every day before I'd take a job as a police officer, especially in the city.
Maybe you should have more faith in kids and the courts than cops that kidnap and abuse kids.
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