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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    LMAO
    Laugh all you want but there is no wage gap when you compare wages for the same job and with the same qualifications. What do you want, to have a real wage gap with women making more money than men for the same job? Since you believe women are superior to men why wouldn't you want that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    Laugh all you want but there is no wage gap when you compare wages for the same job and with the same qualifications. What do you want, to have a real wage gap with women making more money than men for the same job? Since you believe women are superior to men why wouldn't you want that?
    LOL . your link was BS.

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    Smokey, denial ain't a river in Africa

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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    LOL . your link was BS.
    What was BS about it? Your link was a joke, they didn't compare apples to apples.

    The wage gap statistic, however, doesn’t compare two similarly situated co-workers of different sexes, working in the same industry, performing the same work, for the same number of hours a day. It merely reflects the median earnings of all men and women classified as full-time workers.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...qual-pay-myth/

    Need more? Are all of these BS too?

    This gender gap is not the result of rampant discrimination. Rather, it exists because men and women often work in different jobs, work different hours, and have different qualifications. When work experience, education, occupation, and hours of work are taken into account, the average woman makes 98 cents for every dollar earned by a man,” Sherk said.

    So then why — if it’s true that women are getting paid 77 cents for every dollar a man makes; if women are not getting equal pay for doing the same job — why would any company hire any man at all? Why wouldn’t companies only hire women to do all the work and save 23 percent on their labor costs? This is not a rhetorical question," Goldberg said. "If greedy businessmen are fixated on “maximizing profits” how do we account for so many “overpaid” men in the workforce?"
    http://www.examiner.com/article/obam...ue-experts-say

    According to highly acclaimed career expert and best-selling author, Marty Nemko, "The data is clear that for the same work men and women are paid roughly the same. The media need to look beyond the claims of feminist organizations."

    On a radio talk show, Nemko clearly and forcefully debunked that ultimate myth - that women make less than men - by explaining why, when you compare apples to apples, it simply isn't true. Even the White House report: Women in America: Indicators of Social and Economic Well-Being explains why. Simply put, men choose higher-paying jobs.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_1...complete-myth/

    Legitimate comparisons look at men and women with the same job tenure in the same position at the same firm. If there’s a big difference under those circumstances, there may be discrimination, giving women grounds to sue. Federal law forbids discrimination, and permits such suits.

    When economists compare men and women in the same job with the same experience, the analysts find that they earn about the same. Studies by former Congressional Budget Office director June O’Neill, University of Chicago economics professor Marianne Bertrand, and the research firm Consad all found that women are paid practically the same as men.
    http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012...-paying-fields

    Looks like if there is a BS link here it is yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    LOL . your link was BS.
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    LMAO
    That may be true, but I love those whining "men are the real victims" pieces from members of the bitter old man victims club. They find the darndest things to whine about. Something always seems to make them feel so persecuted, whether it's a parking space or worrying about drones invading their personal air space.

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    Octoburn--

    It appears songfourone was first whining about women being paid less than men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Octoburn--

    It appears songfourone was first whining about women being paid less than men.
    Perhaps on this thread, but there is a recurring theme of "men are the real victims" on these forums, whether caused by something a woman did or something the LGBT cabal caused.

    And I do find whining about whining to be amusing and quite telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    Perhaps on this thread, but there is a recurring theme of "men are the real victims" on these forums, whether caused by something a woman did or something the LGBT cabal caused.

    And I do find whining about whining to be amusing and quite telling.
    Aww...it's just Smokey being Smokey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Octoburn--

    It appears songfourone was first whining about women being paid less than men.
    Check yourself Matt.

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    songfourone--

    What's to check?
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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    Perhaps on this thread, but there is a recurring theme of "men are the real victims" on these forums, whether caused by something a woman did or something the LGBT cabal caused.

    And I do find whining about whining to be amusing and quite telling.
    If Smokey is around the white men victim will sound!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    songfourone--

    What's to check?
    I was whining?

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    songfourone--

    Just as much as Smokey in this instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    songfourone--

    Just as much as Smokey in this instance.
    So it is your position that women receive equal pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman View Post
    Aww...it's just Smokey being Smokey.
    Whining about how horrible the white males have it.

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    sfo--

    Where on this thread did Smokey say anythings about whites?

    Woman may be paid less than men overall, but perhaps there are factors other than sex that account for it.

    Also, there are indications that in certain places, women are earning more than men.

    But now there's evidence that the ship may finally be turning around: according to a new analysis of 2,000 communities by a market research company, in 147 out of 150 of the biggest cities in the U.S., the median full-time salaries of young women are 8% higher than those of the guys in their peer group. In two cities, Atlanta and Memphis, those women are making about 20% more. This squares with earlier research from Queens College, New York, that had suggested that this was happening in major metropolises. But the new study suggests that the gap is bigger than previously thought, with young women in New York City, Los Angeles and San Diego making 17%, 12% and 15% more than their male peers, respectively. And it also holds true even in reasonably small areas like the Raleigh-Durham region and Charlotte in North Carolina (both 14% more), and Jacksonville, Fla. (6%).
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    I don't know about the rest of you, but I want to move to Smokey's world where everything is rainbows and puppy dogs for gays, women, minorities, etc. None of them ever suffer in justice or discrimination and the playing field is completely level and equal for all. Must be a wonderful place that Smokey utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I want to move to Smokey's world where everything is rainbows and puppy dogs for gays, women, minorities, etc. None of them ever suffer in justice or discrimination and the playing field is completely level and equal for all. Must be a wonderful place that Smokey utopia.
    And I thought it was only me

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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    Whining about how horrible the white males have it.
    Really, can you point out where I was doing that?

    You present a link to a "fact letter" produced by a group that lobby's for women at work and then you call my links from CBS News, Forbe's, Market Watch and the Examiner BS? Why don't you counter my argument with some facts or something relevant instead of all the deflections?
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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I want to move to Smokey's world where everything is rainbows and puppy dogs for gays, women, minorities, etc. None of them ever suffer in justice or discrimination and the playing field is completely level and equal for all. Must be a wonderful place that Smokey utopia.
    Can you provide any evidence that my argument is wrong or are you too just going make stupid irrelevant comments?

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