Possible compromise on immigration reform takes shape

[Sprightly]

On the surface, this sounds like a fair compromise:'\

The legislators based the proposal on four "pillars." These include:

-- A "tough but fair" path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants already living in the United States, after bolstering the nation's border security;

--Overhauling the country's legal immigration system, including attaching green cards to advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering, or math from U.S. universities;

--Establishing an employment verification system that holds employers accountable for hiring undocumented workers;

--Creating a guest worker program for positions that Americans are either unable or unwilling to fill.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/28/politi...html?hpt=po_c1

Of course, people from both "sides" will object but they need to learn the meaning of compromise.

[soulflower]

Looks like Republicans are "evolving"...

Lets see if the House GOP learned from the 2012 election

[Sprightly]

Looks like Republicans are "evolving"...

Lets see if the House GOP learned from the 2012 election

Can't let an opportunity pass, eh?

[bmore_ken]

I'd be curious to know what form this will take

holds employers accountable for hiring undocumented workers

[flyboy56]

"Establishing an employment verification system that holds employers accountable for hiring undocumented workers;"

I thought we already have I-9 for that?

[jessup270]

On the surface, this sounds like a fair compromise:'\

The legislators based the proposal on four "pillars." These include:

-- A "tough but fair" path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants already living in the United States, after bolstering the nation's border security;

--Overhauling the country's legal immigration system, including attaching green cards to advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering, or math from U.S. universities;

--Establishing an employment verification system that holds employers accountable for hiring undocumented workers;

--Creating a guest worker program for positions that Americans are either unable or unwilling to fill.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/28/politi...html?hpt=po_c1

Of course, people from both "sides" will object but they need to learn the meaning of compromise.

We heard the some promises from Reagan in 1985, when he gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens.

Does this amnesty program also apply to illegal aliens from Russia, North Korea, Yemen, Iraq, Iran or is it only to be offered to Hispanics?

[BiggSeth]

any "law" that rewards those who broke the law to enter the Country, have worked in violation of the laws currently on the books, or have aided in either of these 2 points punishes law abiding citizens of all races, colors, genders, sexual orientations and political affiliations.

Personally, I do not see how this is right.....

So you grant amnesty to those who came here illegally, now you have flooded the workforce with "new" above-the-board job seekers who have no right to be here in the first place. By "forgiving" their past crimes, you are punishing the group of workers seeking the same jobs (at any skill level) who were either born here legally, or came here via the laws currently in-place. Now instead of having X # of legal workers looking for Y jobs, you have X+Z workers looking for those same Y jobs....

[Rael]

While I agree with you in principle BigSeth, do you see a believable, enforceable alternative? If you concede that mass deportation of some 12 million people is not going to occur, you have to then deal with the reality that they are here.

[Smokey 1]

Does this amnesty program also apply to illegal aliens from Russia, North Korea, Yemen, Iraq, Iran or is it only to be offered to Hispanics?

Good question, but I am sure the programs were designed with only hispanics in mind.

[octoburn]

While I agree with you in principle BigSeth, do you see a believable, enforceable alternative? If you concede that mass deportation of some 12 million people is not going to occur, you have to then deal with the reality that they are here.

All it would really take is actual enforcement of strong laws that held the employers responsible for hiring people who are here illegally and a constitutional change to prohibit birthright citizen to those born of parents who are not here legally.

But I expect neither of those things will ever happen through the efforts of both major political parties.

[jessup270]

While I agree with you in principle BigSeth, do you see a believable, enforceable alternative? If you concede that mass deportation of some 12 million people is not going to occur, you have to then deal with the reality that they are here.

Why do people think you can't deport millions of people, in the US illegally?

In Baltimore City, if your are a US born citizen and are found driving without a license, you are usually arrested on location and your car is impounded.

In places like California, Arizona, Colorado, if you are an illegal citizen, you just go on about your business, with little or no repercussions.

This type of law enforcement is a slap in the face legal citizens, who follow the laws of the land.

To grant amnesty to 12 million people who are illegally in this country, is a travesty.

As soon as amnesty is granted to 12 million illegals, the next wave of 12 million illegal persons outside of US borders, will be gathering for their turn at amnesty. It will NEVER end.

[Rael]

All it would really take is actual enforcement of strong laws that held the employers responsible for hiring people who are here illegally and a constitutional change to prohibit birthright citizen to those born of parents who are not here legally.

But I expect neither of those things will ever happen through the efforts of both major political parties.

I'm not sure you can use the phrases "all it would take" and "constitutional change" in the same sentence effectively.

[Sprightly]

Here is the text:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D262696

[bmore_ken]

I'm not sure you can use the phrases "all it would take" and "constitutional change" in the same sentence effectively.

That was kind of funny. Constitutional changes are easy

[octoburn]

That was kind of funny. Constitutional changes are easy

Who said it was easy? Neither of the two major political parties wants to do that in the first place.

[bmore_ken]

Who said it was easy? Neither of the two major political parties wants to do that in the first place.

Well when you write "all it would really take" that makes it sound kind of easy

[octoburn]

Well when you write "all it would really take" that makes it sound kind of easy

Just a couple of online petitions would do the trick.

[demopublican]

Any amnesty program must require 100% of back taxes paid by both employee and employer. Otherwise there would be a clear conflict with any citizen being punished for unpaid taxes.

[demopublican]

*Some illegals may even get taxes back if they have had taxes withheld but had never filed.

[slapshot]

Any amnesty program must require 100% of back taxes paid by both employee and employer. Otherwise there would be a clear conflict with any citizen being punished for unpaid taxes.

Agree 100%