Guns don't kill people. Video games kill people

[soulflower]

They don't have video games in Japan or England?

CHUCK TODD (MSNBC): Can you envision a way of supporting the universal background checks bill?

LAMAR ALEXANDER: Chuck, I'm going to wait and see on all of these bills. I think video games is a bigger problem than guns, because video games affect people. But the First Amendment limits what we can do about video games and the Second Amendment to the Constitution limits what we can do about guns.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...video-games-do

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

They don't have video games in Japan or England?

In the Newtown shooting, partially empty magazines were found laying about.

In most video games, it is common practice to dump a partially filled magazine and replace with a full one at every opportunity.

A cop friend, who is addicted to "Gears of War" and "Halo" related this to me.

[soulflower]

In the Newtown shooting, partially empty magazines were found laying about.

In most video games, it is common practice to dump a partially filled magazine and replace with a full one at every opportunity.

A cop friend, who is addicted to "Gears of War" and "Halo" related this to me.

If videogames are to blame for gun violence, why don't other countries where videogames are popular experience the same level of gun violence as America?

[SemiAuto]

Because video games are not the cause of gun violence.

Do I win a prize?

[bmorepunk]

In the Newtown shooting, partially empty magazines were found laying about.

In most video games, it is common practice to dump a partially filled magazine and replace with a full one at every opportunity.

A cop friend, who is addicted to "Gears of War" and "Halo" related this to me.

That is tactical technique used in the real world. You reload when you want to, not when you have to. If you've got five rounds left in a 30 round magazine, you put it in a location where non-full magazines are kept (not where the full ones are) then start using those later if you have to. If I just came out of contact and I have a mostly empty magazine I'm changing over to a full one while I have that spot, then I'm coming back out.

It's a good technique in video games because almost every game lets you "top off" your magazine by just putting more rounds into it. I played one once that actually accounted for how many rounds were in each magazine so it was realistic.

[ivanbalt]

It's the gun's fault.
It's video games' fault.
It's heavy metal's fault.
It's rap's fault.
Etc

[banner1124]

It's the gun's fault.
It's video games' fault.
It's heavy metal's fault.
It's rap's fault.
Etc

you're point?

[ivanbalt]

you're point?

People want a simple solution to explain society's ills.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

That is tactical technique used in the real world. You reload when you want to, not when you have to. If you've got five rounds left in a 30 round magazine, you put it in a location where non-full magazines are kept (not where the full ones are) then start using those later if you have to. If I just came out of contact and I have a mostly empty magazine I'm changing over to a full one while I have that spot, then I'm coming back out.

It's a good technique in video games because almost every game lets you "top off" your magazine by just putting more rounds into it. I played one once that actually accounted for how many rounds were in each magazine so it was realistic.

I realize that tactical reloads are stressed by HSLD guys. Chuck Taylor's book, "The Fighting Rifle" gives good examples and selection of and use of the dump bag.

I was just pointing out that Lanza did this. Some of his magazines had several rounds left in them. I doubt he learned this in one of Larry Vickers' or Pat Rogers' classes.

[georjec2]

High capacity magazine are going to go down. Watch and see.

[cprenegade]

High capacity magazine are going to go down. Watch and see.

Actually, from what I have been told, high capacity magazines have a tendency to jam more often than smaller ones. The more efficient way to kill is by using multiple smaller magazine clips. People who are adept at changing out magazine clips can do so in a matter of seconds. Getting rid of high capacity magazines will make people believe something good is being done, but in reality an accomplished shooter can do just as much damage with a bunch of smaller clips.

[cprenegade]

The video games are no more responsible for the killing than the guns are. The real problem is the decay of the American culture and family unit. Everyday violence can be traced to the lack of a family unit with values. When kids grow up without discipline and a strong belief of right and wrong, they learn it from the streets where others have grown up the same way. The mentally disturbed are not treated with people skills as much as they are with drugs which are meant to "fix" them so that parents won't have to do it. Only those drugs don't always work the same way with everyone and occasionally something goes horribly wrong.

[kelsey59]

It's the gun's fault.
It's video games' fault.
It's heavy metal's fault.
It's rap's fault.
Etc

Yup - everything is to blame put the person pulling the trigger.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

High capacity magazine are going to go down. Watch and see.

I think you are going to be disappointed. There are several million in existence now. During the last AWB they were never hard to find, they only cost a few dollars more.

Won't bother me. I prefer 10 rounders for my AR15s. They're shorter and make the weapon more compact. I only use two 30-round mags for home security and I only load them with 20 rounds.

Why?

Because only loading 20 rounds instead of 30 doesn't not stress the spring. It won't take a set and weaken regardless of however long it is stored. The larger size makes it easier to grab and load in a hurry.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Actually, from what I have been told, high capacity magazines have a tendency to jam more often than smaller ones. The more efficient way to kill is by using multiple smaller magazine clips. People who are adept at changing out magazine clips can do so in a matter of seconds. Getting rid of high capacity magazines will make people believe something good is being done, but in reality an accomplished shooter can do just as much damage with a bunch of smaller clips.

Even the military guys I know only load 27 rounds into a 30 for that very reason.
A lot of them don't trust issue aluminum mags and buy polymer P-mags from Magpul out of their own pocket.