Popping Wheelies in Charm City

[Spot72]

These bike riders are absolutely losers, and not contributors.

"enjoy riding on Sundays"... LOL, yea, lots of gainfully employed, hard working citizens like plumbers and project managers (!?) are ripping up Baltimores streets on dirt bikes.

They are not contributors to society in any way, even if they are employed. They are, in total, scourges to society.

They are destroyers of their own neighborhoods, because they don't know any better.

Pepper, where are your facts for the bold?

[pepper]

Pepper, where are your facts for the bold?

Where are my facts? As in a link? LOL, really?

I guess 50 years of life, 30 years working in the city, and having witnessed the display of losers on parade with their bikes, I've come to some conclusions.

I think the better question is why the heck are you defending this crap? Do you have any links or facts that might reveal these absolute losers to be "project managers"?

And lets say for argument that the bike crews are all gainfully employed taxpayers....So what? Does that make it OK? No, it would imply that even though they have jobs, they are no less the scourge of the community than those who don't work for a living.

Actually, it would make them bigger losers, because they should know better than some joy riding moron or drug dealer.

Your level of social and community standards is set really low, if you don't have a problem with this issue. It tells me you either are a participant, or that you have friends or family that do this, or you've just become so complacent with lawlessness that you don't see a problem.

[Spot72]

Where are my facts? As in a link? LOL, really?

I guess 50 years of life, 30 years working in the city, and having witnessed the display of losers on parade with their bikes, I've come to some conclusions.

I think the better question is why the heck are you defending this crap? Do you have any links or facts that might reveal these absolute losers to be "project managers"?

And lets say for argument that the bike crews are all gainfully employed taxpayers....So what? Does that make it OK? No, it would imply that even though they have jobs, they are no less the scourge of the community than those who don't work for a living.

Actually, it would make them bigger losers, because they should know better than some joy riding moron or drug dealer.

Your level of social and community standards is set really low, if you don't have a problem with this issue. It tells me you either are a participant, or that you have friends or family that do this, or you've just become so complacent with lawlessness that you don't see a problem.

Nothing but pure ridiculous nonsense with no facts to substantiate the claim.

[pepper]

Nothing but pure ridiculous nonsense with no facts to substantiate the claim.

I dare you to challenge any of my points specifically. Bring it on, and I'll answer.

"ridiculous nonsense"? Give me an example and lets play.

[bmore_ken]

Your level of social and community standards is set really low, if you don't have a problem with this issue. It tells me you either are a participant, or that you have friends or family that do this, or you've just become so complacent with lawlessness that you don't see a problem.

This part of your post hits the hammer on the head with why the city is in the shape it's in. Sad

[pepper]

This part of your post hits the hammer on the head with why the city is in the shape it's in. Sad

Folks like Spot suck because they have very low expectations on how members of society should act. Instead of explaining it away and making absurd rationalizations as to why destructive actions like this is not a negative, they seem to take offense at the pointed finger. Likely, that finger points to them or their friends and family.

Theres a reason things like the biker gangs exist. Because people like Spot allow it. The only reason I can imagine that people would dismiss this activity as mostly harmless is because they don't have a financial vested interest in their home or community.

[Spot72]

This part of your post hits the hammer on the head with why the city is in the shape it's in. Sad

Back to you Tom, what exact shape is the city in?

"ridiculous nonsense"? Give me an example and lets play.

Well we can start here.

These bike riders are absolutely losers, and not contributors.

"enjoy riding on Sundays"... LOL, yea, lots of gainfully employed, hard working citizens like plumbers and project managers (!?) are ripping up Baltimores streets on dirt bikes.

They are not contributors to society in any way, even if they are employed. They are, in total, scourges to society.

They are destroyers of their own neighborhoods, because they don't know any better.

Pepper, where are your facts for the bold?

[Eastside Terp]

article in the Sun today about the movie ......

MICA grad's film accepted into South by Southwest
'12 O'clock Boys,' Lotfy Nathan's documentary on West Baltimore's dirt-bike culture, will get its world premiere next month

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertai...,1769440.story

a couple summers ago it was so bad that I stopped commuting on Edmondson Ave during the summer evenings ......

the dirt bikes would be all around you doing wheelies in traffic .......

they came so close to hitting the vehicles .......

[bmore_ken]

Back to you Tom, what exact shape is the city in?

It's Ken. To answer your question though, 200 murders a year, hundreds of run down houses, failing schools. It's a long list

[demopublican]

Nothing but pure ridiculous nonsense with no facts to substantiate the claim.

Well all we need are the verified full names and occupations for the riders in the youtube videos.

[demopublican]

MICA grad's film accepted into South by Southwest
'12 O'clock Boys,' Lotfy Nathan's documentary on West Baltimore's dirt-bike culture, will get its world premiere next month.......

Calling this lawless behavior a culture does not make it legitimate or valuable to society at large. The packs of reckless riders are meant to intimidate the people on the street.

[Spot72]

Theres a reason things like the biker gangs exist.

Biker gangs? Please provide facts behind these reckless accusations.
This is complete misinformation. What's the name of the biker gang Pepper?

If you do not provide facts, I will not entertain your ridiculous ramblings.
The same applies to Ken.

[demopublican]

If you do not provide facts, I will not entertain your ridiculous ramblings.
The same applies to "Tom" aka "Ken".

Why is he aka Tom?

[octoburn]

Riding illegal bikes in Baltimore City while displaying disregard for the law and endangering the lives of others is one of those quality of life issues that continue to plague the city and areas near the city. It's not even legal to sell gasoline for illegal bikes in the city.

Sadly ~ it continues because too many people are unwilling to "snitch" and inform the police where bikes are kept.

[bmore_ken]

Why is he aka Tom?

He forgot the "Uncle" part.

[demopublican]

Oh dear lord. That thing?

[pepper]

Biker gangs? Please provide facts behind these reckless accusations.
This is complete misinformation. What's the name of the biker gang Pepper?

If you do not provide facts, I will not entertain your ridiculous ramblings.
The same applies to Ken.

In this case, "gang" refers to a like minded group acting in concert. Although I have no doubt, (again, having paid attention and actually lived) that some of these riders are actual dealers or gang members. Ask a cop.

First though, Google the meaning of the word "gang". No surprise I have to hold your hand and guide you on this stuff...

But hey, lets pretend they're not gang members, but otherwise solid contributors to their neighborhoods, as Spot seems to think, or wants us to imagine.

No matter, they still suck, and contribute to the destruction of their community.

You Spot, are a huge part of what makes Baltimore suck. You enable, justify, support, and rationalize behaviors that are destructive.

[pepper]

Pepper & Ken you are both rambling foolish claims without substance and I will no longer continue to entertain this.

If I were you, and had your position, I'd roll out as well.

At least you never questioned specific points made, which would mean I'd have to take your hand and explain things to you, as if you were a small child. That would be awkward.

[demopublican]

Riding an off road vehicle on public streets is illegal and dangerous. Encouraging and enabling juveniles to participate in this activity and to learn dangerous stunts without proper safety equipment makes this crime even worse. Regardless of what other jobs and responsibilities these adults might (or might not) have this activity is clearly criminal and reckless. These people are not contributing positively to Baltimore but are working to tear the it down. They don't need a dirt bike park. They need a jail cell.

[jessup270]

Lawful citizens in the community who operate motor vehicles, obtain an operators license, obtain insurance and register their vehicle with the State and pay for a license plate.

They also operate their vehicles in accordance with the law, operate their vehicles in a manner that is safe for fellow citizens and themselves.

The Baltimore City dirt bike operators in question, do none of the above.

The leadership of the Baltimore City Police department is fully aware of the problem, yet these riders conduct themselves with impunity.

This is a blatant example of a society in decay.