Ten Arguments Gun Advocates Make, and Why They're Wrong

[Grindelwald]

http://prospect.org/article/ten-argu...y-theyre-wrong

Emphasis on #4 and #6, those are spot on.

[flyboy56]

4. "Our current gun laws are riddled with loopholes and allow people to amass enormous arsenals of military-style weapons with virtually no restrictions."

So work to close those loopholes before adding new laws.

6. "Every right is subject to limitation when it begins to threaten others, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that even though there is an individual right to gun ownership, the government can put reasonable restrictions on that right."

How does just owning a gun threaten others?

[Mom49of4]

Unless gun confiscation is 100% there will always be people killed by guns.

[flyboy56]

You can bet any gun law that gets passed the elites and the rich will be above the law. Just us little people will be forced to comply.

[Jeebus]

More liberal drivel.

[octoburn]

I have to ask this for the sake of polite argument ~ but what makes a semi~automatic firearm a "military~style" weapon? And as for enforcing laws that are already on the books, how many felons have been actually prosecuted when they have attempted to buy guns from a legal dealer but were stopped from purchasing them because they were already felons?

[kudzu]

http://prospect.org/article/ten-argu...y-theyre-wrong

Emphasis on #4 and #6, those are spot on.

Admit it, you were born in a barn.

[Grindelwald]

I didn't write the article.

[veritas]

#10 is an absurdity. It seems to suggest that those who recognize that freedom is sometimes messy but that it is still worth it to maintain it, are somehow callous cretins who only care about getting to play weekend Rambo. It is the qunitessential caricature of what liberals think the average gun owner is like. The truth is that the vast majority are normal people who just happen to own firearms. They're no less horrified by Newtown than liberals. It's just that they realize that chicken little reactions like gun bans will do nothing to stop the next Newtown nor one inner city shooting in Chicago or another large city. A comprehensive background check system is needed. A determined effort to exact heavy mandatory sentences for gun crimes is needed. Telling law abiding people what types of guns or magazines they can buy when we're already awash in them, is useless and will always skirt the edges of un-Constitutionality.

[kudzu]

I didn't write the article.

Yet you're defending it.

[Grindelwald]

Yet you're defending it.

Would you care to explain why he is wrong? Otherwise, your insults don't mean ####.

[Jeebus]

I have to ask this for the sake of polite argument ~ but what makes a semi~automatic firearm a "military~style" weapon?

The addition of a "scary looking" attachment -- eg pistol grip, flash suppressor, folding stock, bayonet lug -- that in no way increases the firepower of the weapon whatsoever.

To wit:

Legal Ruger Mini 14 Ranch Rifle - .223 caliber semi automatic - fires a 55 gr bullet at 3,240 feet per second with 1,282 foot-pounds of energy, one round at a time, as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Illegal Ruger Mini-14 "Assault Rifle" - .223 caliber semi automatic - fires a 55 gr bullet at 3,240 feet per second with 1,282 foot-pounds of energy, one round at a time, as fast as you can pull the trigger.

The lunacy of the LWNJ gun grabber, illustrated.

[kudzu]

Would you care to explain why he is wrong? Otherwise, your insults don't mean ####.

Perhaps instead, you should tell us why we should read and seriously consider an article/opinion from "prospect.org".

[slapshot]

Admit it, you were born in a barn.

Com'on, vine man. As someone who lives in a trailer, you can do better than that. Elevate your game.

Hey, bad news.....Couple of buddies and I are headed to NC to look for retirement property. More Yankees headed to NC. Not retiring yet...but i say better to buy now, while the market is depressed. Maybe we could be neighbors?

Peace.

[Grindelwald]

4. "Our current gun laws are riddled with loopholes and allow people to amass enormous arsenals of military-style weapons with virtually no restrictions."

So work to close those loopholes before adding new laws.

From the article itself: "The people who say this are the same ones who fight to make sure that existing laws are as weak and ineffectual as possible."

6. "Every right is subject to limitation when it begins to threaten others, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that even though there is an individual right to gun ownership, the government can put reasonable restrictions on that right."

How does just owning a gun threaten others?

Stop playing games. That cannot be a serious question.

Perhaps instead, you should tell us why we should read and seriously consider an article/opinion from "prospect.org".

He makes valid points.

Prove otherwise.

[slapshot]

Unless gun confiscation is 100% there will always be people killed by guns.

I agree with that.

Although, there are degrees, but there are are no absolutes.

[The Shadow]

Ten Arguments Gun Advocates Make, and Why They're Wrong

Homeland Security Has Advice For Confronting Armed Mass Killers: "scissors"

WASHINGTON — Is your workplace getting shot up by a crazed gunman? No problem — just grab a pair of scissors and fight back!

That’s some of the helpful advice in a new instructional video from the Department of Homeland Security that was posted on the agency’s Web site just a month after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut.

"Scissors" for us...Assualt Rifles for them:

Homeland Security To Purchase 7,000 Assault Rifles For ‘Personal Defense’

Remember this story from last year on how the US Social Security Administration purchased 174,000 hollow point bullets? Well, here we are in 2013 and now they are buying the assault rifles with which to shoot them. The only question that remains is who their target will wind up being. Hmmm….

From The Blaze: The Department of Homeland Security is seeking to acquire 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons” (PDW) — also known as “assault weapons” when owned by civilians.

Homeland Security Chief Janet 'Big Phony' Napolitano, The Queen of Liberal Hypocrisy

[kudzu]

Com'on, vine man. As someone who lives in a trailer, you can do better than that. Elevate your game.

Hey, bad news.....Couple of buddies and I are headed to NC to look for retirement property. More Yankees headed to NC. Not retiring yet...but i say better to buy now, while the market is depressed. Maybe we could be neighbors?

Peace.

Stay away. Please.

Why don't you retire to the Northeast where you'd clearly be more comfortable ?

Instead of bringing your idiocy down here.

[flyboy56]

"From the article itself: "The people who say this are the same ones who fight to make sure that existing laws are as weak and ineffectual as possible." Grindelwald

If these same people are strong enough to prevent the closing of loopholes, what makes anyone think news laws will get passed? I would think there'd be a better chance of closing loopholes.

[kudzu]

He makes valid points.

No, "he" doesn't.

Sounds like a tranny to me.