Ten Arguments Gun Advocates Make, and Why They're Wrong

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

wild-eyed
adj
1. glaring in an angry, distracted, or wild manner
2. ill-conceived or totally impracticable


Fits you to a tee.


slap·hap·py (slphp)
adj. slap·hap·pi·er, slap·hap·pi·est Slang
1. Dazed, silly, or incoherent from or as if from blows to the head; punch-drunk.
2. Happy-go-lucky.


OK, I agree with #1

WILD EYED SOUTHERN BOYS - Name of 1981 album by the southern rock band .38 Special

You should listen to something other than polka for a while.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Wonder how long that personal attack will remain? Any bets?

It will be left up for educational purposes because it accurately portrays what defines a total jackwagon.

Cause I may be bad, but I’m perfectly good at it,

Sticks and stones may break my bones,

but chains and whips excite me….............….

DANG, THERE I GO DIGRESSING AGAIN! (Sorry Rihanna)

[Grindelwald]

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/31/op...men/index.html

[songfourone]

I had hoped that song would weigh in, but alas, she's not up to the challenge.

Analogy, part 2.

This person was a Jew.

He was escaping the Holocaust, and did so successfully (I don't know if he shot anyone).

Be skeptical of your government and the press, and don't think that something like this can't happen in this day and age.

There are medications that can help with that delusion of persecution you aren't dealing with.

[slapshot]

WILD EYED SOUTHERN BOYS - Name of 1981 album by the southern rock band .38 Special

You should listen to something other than polka for a while.

#2.

Not #1.

I like polka.

Re: wild eyed southern boy

Lyrics are inspirational. lol.

I'll stick with Hendrix or Dylan.

[georjec2]

You guys are slowly turning me into a republican. Every time one of these dumb threads get posted I get nudged a little further right

Well you be bouncing like a ping pong cause as soon as you get settled in and comfortable the "stupid party" will bounce you right back over to whichever of the 3 sides you decide to land on. I've always been under the impression that you were not a Dem because of your dislike of Pres. Obama but then you didn't strike me as a repub. So once and for all what is your party leanings or affiliation.

Post for post it is my observation that the weirdest, most far fetched and bizarre topics here come from the far right posters. Not the conservative or rightwing posters, although they occasionally have their moments too, but the far right posters. I'll leave it to you to decide who they are. Is that who you mean to group yourself with ?

[Chesapeake Spirit]

There are medications that can help with that delusion of persecution you aren't dealing with.

So, a snarky remark is all you've got about this gentleman escaping the holocaust? My example should serve to show you how easily things can be misrepresented, but I understand that's above your pay grade.

Now, run along and put on your cheerleader skirt, the team needs you. You might even gain a seat on the right hand of the quarterback.

[Dryfire]

Well you be bouncing like a ping pong cause as soon as you get settled in and comfortable the "stupid party" will bounce you right back over to whichever of the 3 sides you decide to land on. I've always been under the impression that you were not a Dem because of your dislike of Pres. Obama but then you didn't strike me as a repub. So once and for all what is your party leanings or affiliation.

Post for post it is my observation that the weirdest, most far fetched and bizarre topics here come from the far right posters. Not the conservative or rightwing posters, although they occasionally have their moments too, but the far right posters. I'll leave it to you to decide who they are. Is that who you mean to group yourself with ?

~In my best Darth Vader voice~

Ken,

Come over to the darkside. We'll conquer the universe.

LMAO

[kudzu]

So you've been diagnosed with dual personality disorder?

Not officially.

[kudzu]

Have you been banned from owing a gun?

Do you own a gun ?

Pellet rifles don't count...

[bmore_ken]

Well you be bouncing like a ping pong cause as soon as you get settled in and comfortable the "stupid party" will bounce you right back over to whichever of the 3 sides you decide to land on. I've always been under the impression that you were not a Dem because of your dislike of Pres. Obama but then you didn't strike me as a repub. So once and for all what is your party leanings or affiliation.

Post for post it is my observation that the weirdest, most far fetched and bizarre topics here come from the far right posters. Not the conservative or rightwing posters, although they occasionally have their moments too, but the far right posters. I'll leave it to you to decide who they are. Is that who you mean to group yourself with ?

I'm smack dab in the middle on issues, but I'm big on gun ownership rights. It's one big issue where I side with them until you hit the conceal carry issue which I am most certainly against. I don't really identify 100% with either party. It ain't easy being me

[songfourone]

"One failed attempt at a shoe bomb, and now we all take off our shoes at the airport. Thirty-one (mass) shootings since Columbine, and no change in our regulation of guns." After seven people died because of Tylenol tampering in the early 80s, sealed products very quickly became standard. Changing our regulations to meet the threats of today does not have to be a slow, arduous task. We only need enough of the public to demand changes, and elected lawmakers who will stand strong in the face of well-funded, firmly entrenched opposition.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-d...b_2312666.html

[slapshot]

"One failed attempt at a shoe bomb, and now we all take off our shoes at the airport. Thirty-one (mass) shootings since Columbine, and no change in our regulation of guns." After seven people died because of Tylenol tampering in the early 80s, sealed products very quickly became standard. Changing our regulations to meet the threats of today does not have to be a slow, arduous task. We only need enough of the public to demand changes, and elected lawmakers who will stand strong in the face of well-funded, firmly entrenched opposition.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-d...b_2312666.html

To quote mom,

"I agree"

[veritas]

"Regulating" guns will not stop mass shootings so following that line of attack is a waste of time. Mass shootings have been carried out with handguns and shotguns just as easily as with semi-auto rifles. We need to improve mental health services, create a uniform background check system and lock up first time gun offenders for lengthy periods of time. These can work. Gun bans will fail.

[octoburn]

I just wish people would at least be more honest and admit that they really want to confiscate guns and acknowledge that criminals will not be deterred by or follow any gun control laws in the first place.

The "logic" employed seems to be that taking guns away from lawful citizens who have already been checked will prevent criminals from having possible access to them when they obtain them either by stealing them or by some other illegal means.

It seems like common sense should dictate that those set on committing horrible mass killings put a lot of planning into ways to circumvent the laws and safeguards that are already in place.

[Mom49of4]

octoburn I really believe those talk about new laws really want total gun confiscation. If anyone supports the 2nd amendmant they are called gun nuts even if they do not own a gun.

I can imagine that those who handled the victims from Sandy Hook were moved to tears such as the police, doctors, nurses, and family members.

The NRA did not kill those children nor did law abiding gun owners. If you suspect a family member of having a mental illness it is NOT easy to get that person help.

[gonzoliberal]

...and I wish people would admit that the "gun control" issue is all about pandering to the Dem base (fears) and nothing (rational) to do with guns.

You can hear it in the rhetoric. Rallying cries of "we've got to do SOMETHING!"...
...and in typical group-think, the wrong thing is chosen.

Don't for a moment think that this phenomenon is limited to the Dems.

[slapshot]

"Regulating" guns will not stop mass shootings so following that line of attack is a waste of time. Mass shootings have been carried out with handguns and shotguns just as easily as with semi-auto rifles. We need to improve mental health services, create a uniform background check system and lock up first time gun offenders for lengthy periods of time. These can work. Gun bans will fail.

Let's take it to the extreme.....

Do you think we would have had the same body count at Sandy Hook, VaTech, Aurora and Columbine.....if the perps had been restricted to owning being able to use a gun with a single shot, that had to be re-loaded after each shot?

I think we all know the answer.

Is that practical? No. But the point being - The ready availability of guns that are capable of firing a large number of rounds in a few seconds, will make such mass carnage, easy and a recurring event.

As to your suggestions above - would any of those suggestions have caught/stopped the perps at Columbine, Aurora, VaTech and Sandy Hook? There are simply too many guns that are easily accessible to everyone - good guys, bad guys, sane and insane peoples, underage kids....etc.

[slapshot]

octoburn I really believe those talk about new laws really want total gun confiscation. If anyone supports the 2nd amendmant they are called gun nuts even if they do not own a gun.

So what? Even the most ardent anti-gun proponents know there is zero chance of repealing the 2nd. As with everything in life where negotiations are involved, you start high, and settle for something far less.

The NRA did not kill those children nor did law abiding gun owners. If you suspect a family member of having a mental illness it is NOT easy to get that person help.

Both facilitated the murders -

The NRA by fostering a culture of guns; and legal, law abiding gun owners, like this mother in Sandy Hook, who was an irresponsible gun owner....who made these guns accessible to those that did pull the trigger. Under the law, she most likely would have been charged with negligence. At the very least, had she survived, would have been the most hated person in that part of NE.

[veritas]

So what? Even the most ardent anti-gun proponents know there is zero chance of repealing the 2nd. As with everything in life where negotiations are involved, you start high, and settle for something far less.




Both facilitated the murders -

The NRA by fostering a culture of guns; and legal, law abiding gun owners, like this mother in Sandy Hook, who was an irresponsible gun owner....who made these guns accessible to those that did pull the trigger. Under the law, she was clearly negligent.

And your plan for monitoring legal gun owners after they purchase guns is.....?