"Baker refuses to make wedding cake for lesbian couple and 'calls them...

[Dryfire]

I can guarantee that he'll never get my business.

I'm diabetic and he's 2791 miles away.

[songfourone]

I didn't know you moved to Oregon. I hope you took a sweater; it gets cold there.

I travel extensively. Hoping Istanbul will be copacetic soon.

[SoSad]

I travel extensively. Hoping Istanbul will be copacetic soon.

Enjoy Istanbul when things settle down.

[musicmd]

Why is that? Shouldn't one type of violation of civil rights laws count the same as others?

Matt, I was being sarcastic, and showing how gays are still being discriminated against. If I hit a nerve I am sorry.

[regularguy]

I recall that segregationists used religion to justify their prejudice.

How about a merchant turning away Jewish customers because "they killed our savior"? Is that an exercise of freedom-of-religion?

[sigmalady]

Another article.

http://www.katu.com/news/business/Di...?tab=video&c=y

The woman who filed the complaint said she had previously bought a cake from Sweet Cakes for her mother’s wedding. It was fine. But when her partner went back for their wedding cake on Jan. 17, the owner refused.

Klein on Friday denied making the harsh statement, but admitted to a KATU reporter on camera that he did deny her service.

I wonder why the partner who was denied service wasn't the one who filed the complaint? Was there something about the design of the cake that let the owner know that it was a same-sex couple?

[Baltimatt]

sigmalady--

http://www.kgw.com/news/Gresham-bake...189475871.html

I t started on Jan. 17 when a mother and daughter showed up at Sweet Cakes by Melissa looking for the perfect wedding cake.

"My first question is what's the wedding date," said owner Aaron Klein. "My next question is bride and groom's name ... the girl giggled a little bit and said it's two brides."

The two woman are not speaking on advice of their attorneys.

Does this guy also refuse to serve atheists or mixed faith couples (be not unequally yoked with non-believers)? How about divorced people?

[bullmikey]

Way I see it is you just move on and give your business to somebody else. Considering the way the guy feels about it all, if I were gay I wouldn't want to eat any cake this guy baked for me. Just saying.

[Baltimatt]

Bullmikey--

And if I were straight, I wouldn't want to eat the cake, either.

The question is, do you let people violate the law?

[sigmalady]

What Klein wants to make clear is that he and his wife do not hate homosexuals.

"They can buy my stuff," said Klein. "I'll sell them stuff ... I'll talk to them, it's fine."

What is not fine, according to Klein, is a marriage between people of the same sex. He will always stand by that conviction.

He doesn't refuse to serve gay people. He refuses to make cakes for gay weddings. Its interesting that the complainants aren't speaking on the advice of attorneys.
I hope someone follows up to see how it ends up.

[regularguy]

What Klein wants to make clear is that he and his wife do not hate homosexuals.

"They can buy my stuff," said Klein. "I'll sell them stuff ... I'll talk to them, it's fine."

Yet he calls homosexuals "abominations unto the Lord".

[bullmikey]

Bullmikey--

And if I were straight, I wouldn't want to eat the cake, either.

The question is, do you let people violate the law?

Depends on the state and what the law is. Around here a lot of places have those signs that say something like they reserve the right to refuse service, with no other explanation. I don't know if they are legal or not, but I figure if somebody doesn't want to serve me I'll just go spend my money elsewhere, and not on some damn lawyer either.

The best way to avoid being offended by some Nimrod is to refuse to be offended by said Nimrod. And besides, like we sort of agreed on, who would want to eat a cake baked by this particular Nimrod?

As for the law, I let people violate that everyday. For instance, I don't turn my neighbor's yard workers into INS. Also, I sometimes tend to violate the law myself. On occassion I drive over the speed limit. And back when old Luger was still with me, I didn't always remember to scoop up his poop. Back in my younger days I smoked hooch, engaged in much illicit commerce with a certain class of working gal, and was known to slip over a rat guard or two on my way to un-confining myself from ship’s quarters whenever the devil got the best of me.

I'm afraid I was never much of a saint and my respect for the law is not without certain limits. So if somebody doesn't want to bake me a cake, sell me a tee-shirt, or let me swim in their pool, I'm apt to just let it go and not get all worked up about it. I figure there's always going to be another bakery, tee-shirt place, and swimming hole where my money's good. That's all.

[bullmikey]

Yet he calls homosexuals "abominations unto the Lord".

I think he's just quoting his scripture there. Though I do find it troubling that he thinks this makes him gay neutral or whatever.

[sigmalady]

Yet he calls homosexuals "abominations unto the Lord".

He says he didn't say that to her, she says he did.

[BiggSeth]

Maybe they can get the anti-tolerance for religion/pro gay agenda crowd all whipped up into a froth and they can boycott the bakery.

Remember how well that worked agains chik-fil-a?

take your business elsewhere, get over yourselves and move on. If this is his practice, word of mouth will spread and his business will either suffer or flourish. That is the beauty of the consumer-driven economy. Freedom to choose where your money is spent.

[regularguy]

take your business elsewhere, get over yourselves and move on. If this is his practice, word of mouth will spread and his business will either suffer or flourish. That is the beauty of the consumer-driven economy. Freedom to choose where your money is spent.

How about if the incident had happened in a town that only has one bakery making professional wedding cakes?

Would you say the same thing to a black person who was denied service in a white-owned store/restaurant/hotel?

[musicmd]

If this baker doesn't want to show his support because he believes it is against his beliefs, so be it. If the bridal shop takes the same postion I would feel the same way.

If there are bakers out there advertising on gay and lesbian websites, wouldn't it be best for this couple to support those businesses?

Go find one, and let us know.

[BiggSeth]

How about if the incident had happened in a town that only has one bakery making professional wedding cakes?

Would you say the same thing to a black person who was denied service in a white-owned store/restaurant/hotel?

gay is not a race so your argument is moot.

the hypothetical game you librats play does not deal with the real situation. Live in the REAL moment, not some molded hypothetical which helps you stand up a false argument.

If the bakery does not want your business, why would you compel them to make your cake?

take your business elsewhere. leave a negative comment on one of the hundreds of consumer review sites. move on--it is that simple.

[Baltimatt]

gay is not a race so your argument is moot.

Gay is not race. We know that. But so what? Oregon law prevents discrimination on account of race and sexual orientation, among other things. So the argument is not moot.

[musicmd]

Gay is not race. We know that. But so what? Oregon law prevents discrimination on account of race and sexual orientation, among other things. So the argument is not moot.

Well, matt you know where him or her stands.