"Baker refuses to make wedding cake for lesbian couple and 'calls them...

[BiggSeth]

BigSeth--

So, are you accusing me or any mainstream gay person of wanting to sodomize children and vandalize churches? How dare you!

no more than you acused the Lt. Governor of Nebraska of using anti-gay "code words"


nice try, you still lose the argument.....

[Baltimatt]

BiggSeth--

I did not accuse the former lieutenant governor of using anti-gay code words. Please read the thread.

[Cameron]

No, the argument is at the forefront of discussion.

See, the "Incorporation Doctorine" as it is known states that Federal Law supercedes State laws. That applies to ALL LAWS, not just the pick and choose collection you prefer. Religious Freedom is gauranteed by the First Amendment, this person sees gay marriage as an abomination based on his religious beleifs, therfore according to those who like to cherrypick the "Incorporation Doctorine" then the Oregon law is moot.

Can't have it both ways.....

But the simple solution here is to simply use another business to make your cake, and complain about his business on the various social sites out there who metric consumer ratings of said businesses.

but that is not good enough for some who feel they have the right to compell a private business to go agianst their owner's religious beliefs....

Bass ackwards. Shocker.

ANY law that applies to EVERYBODY does not violate anybody's religious beliefs.

When a law applies to EVERYBODY and you claim that it violates your religious beliefs, it is YOU who is trying to impose YOUR religion on the law.

It is Un-American to impose your religion on the law.

what does this drivel have to do with a privately-owned bakery saying "no thanks" to making a cake for a same-sex wedding? Last time I checked, we were still a free people.

The drivel has to do with your post which has nothing to do with the topic.

[Cameron]

Duff Goldman, 'Ace Of Cakes' Chef, Offers To Bake Rejected Lesbian Couple's Wedding Cake For Free

In the wake of the incident, Baltimore-based pastry chef and "Ace of Cakes" star Duff Goldman is sending out an open offer to the couple (whose names have not been released) saying he'll bake and transport their wedding cake completely free of charge.

The executive chef of the Baltimore-based Charm City Cakes told HuffPost Live, "I saw this story and I was like, “Wait -- I can do something, there’s injustice involving a cake!”

Noting that Charm City has been making same-sex wedding cakes for some time, Goldman added, "For a cake decorator to really feel like he really needed to take a stand…it just makes absolutely no sense. It’s petty, it’s small…this man has wrapped up his hatred in the cloak of religion.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...907,b=facebook

[songfourone]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...907,b=facebook

Yeah Duff!!!!! Love me some Duff Goldman!!!

[SoSad]

Go find one, and let us know.

Sorry about that, I assumed you had read the posts on this thread.

[musicmd]

Sorry about that, I assumed you had read the posts on this thread.

Real cute. I guess you might find one in every city, town, and state in the good ole USA.

[kudzu]

Why is that? Shouldn't one type of violation of civil rights laws count the same as others?

Only if you presume that choosing to be homosexual is a civil right.

[TheResearcher]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ref=gay-voices

Looks like the Heterophobes are losing this battle.

[Bmoreteacher]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ref=gay-voices

Looks like the Heterophobes are losing this battle.

They got free advertising. Its a shame homophobes are now more willing to shop there, but you and your ilk are pretty sickening that way.

[songfourone]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ref=gay-voices

Looks like the Heterophobes are losing this battle.

Absolutely you want the most important cake of your life made by these, homophobic, racists, condescending, bigoted, 'Christian' church attending, nut jobs.

http://www.examiner.com/article/swee...nt-on-facebook

[Monte]

I'll re-phrase my previous unanswered question.

If a same-sex couple lives in an area of the country that only has one professional baker within a reasonable distance (since not everyone lives in metropolitan areas), are they supposed to order their wedding cake online and have it be delivered by FedEx?

It is an interesting question, if there were only one baker. My answer is that there is more than one bakery and that the lesbian couple could find another bakery fairly easily. Unless it is a discrimination against a protected class with special rights, I believe that business has the right to choose with whom they do or do not transact business. I also support the right of people to choose not to do buy goods or services if they choose not to. I also support the right of someone who has been rejected from a business establishment to get on Yelp or Google Comments and tear the business a new one.

I appreciate the opinions of those who disagree with me, but I also object to classes of people who use their special rights status to hammer businesses and shake them down. I have seen rings of unscrupulous and sanctioned attorneys, for example, who took on thousands of frivolous ADA lawsuits over parking spaces or railings in a bathroom. I do not believe that shoving their beliefs down everyone's throats does them any service, with respect to further public support for their cause.

[regularguy]

It is an interesting question, if there were only one baker. My answer is that there is more than one bakery and that the lesbian couple could find another bakery fairly easily.

It's such an interesting question that you immediately reject the premise!

[Baltimatt]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ref=gay-voices

Looks like the Heterophobes are losing this battle.

Heterophobes? Don't you mean bigotphobes?

[Baltimatt]

It is an interesting question, if there were only one baker. My answer is that there is more than one bakery and that the lesbian couple could find another bakery fairly easily. Unless it is a discrimination against a protected class with special rights, I believe that business has the right to choose with whom they do or do not transact business. I also support the right of people to choose not to do buy goods or services if they choose not to. I also support the right of someone who has been rejected from a business establishment to get on Yelp or Google Comments and tear the business a new one.

I appreciate the opinions of those who disagree with me, but I also object to classes of people who use their special rights status to hammer businesses and shake them down. I have seen rings of unscrupulous and sanctioned attorneys, for example, who took on thousands of frivolous ADA lawsuits over parking spaces or railings in a bathroom. I do not believe that shoving their beliefs down everyone's throats does them any service, with respect to further public support for their cause.

Oregon law prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, among other things.

[regularguy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ref=gay-voices

Looks like the Heterophobes are losing this battle.

This isn't a "battle". It's a case of a business that illegally discriminates. The same-sex couple isn't trying to close them down or take away customers... just the opposite, in fact. They want to become customers and give the bakery more business.

[Baltimatt]

This isn't a "battle". It's a case of a business that illegally discriminates. The same-sex couple isn't trying to close them down or take away customers... just the opposite, in fact. They want to become customers and give the bakery more business.

And you note how some people like to talk about "heterophobes," as though people opposed to homophobic discrimination are somehow against heterosexuals? What utter nonsense!

[musicmd]

no more than you acused the Lt. Governor of Nebraska of using anti-gay "code words"


nice try, you still lose the argument.....

Lose an argument to you, yea right.

[ivanbalt]

Baker doesn't seem to be a good businessman. I guess he hopes the anti-gay crowd will keep his business going. If it doesn't, he'll probably blame gays at his unemployment hearing.

[musicmd]

Baker doesn't seem to be a good businessman. I guess he hopes the anti-gay crowd will keep his business going. If it doesn't, he'll probably blame gays at his unemployment hearing.

Maybe he or she is anti profit.