Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Case II

[jtowne-swim]

What evidence is there that Zimmerman used force against Martin?

He is dead!

[jtowne-swim]

I don't know, that is for the judge and jury to decide.

judge. Jury will only get the self defense instruction if Zimmerman provides credible evidence according to the judge.

[jtowne-swim]

If he shot Martin for no good reason then I hope he is convicted and is sent to prison. My point is that it is up to the court to determine his innocence or guilt.

true, but like the OJ trials we can all form our non-legal opinions. Even though OJ is mot-guilty I would not hire him to babysit just like I would not hire George Zimmerman either if he is found not guilty. He gets a trial for the purposes of incarceration but that will not stop the fact that he killed someone and is IMHO reckless and crazy!

[jessup270]

The FL law on stand your ground, can be open to many interruptions.

There have been cases where criminals have successfully used the defense.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1233133.ece

[Spot72]

Zimmerman's parents are so tied into the legal system that I will not in the least bit be surprised if he walks.

[Jeebus]

not with a gun unless you attempt to flee and the person you are stalking you pursues you.

100% wrong, again (sigh).

Your understanding legal principals and concepts is.......lacking to put it mildly.

[Smokey 1]

He shot an unarmed teenager he was stalking!

No, the poster said Zimmerman assaulted Martin before he was shot.

[sigmalady]

100% wrong, again (sigh).

Your understanding legal principals and concepts is.......lacking to put it mildly.

That would be 'principles'

[Smokey 1]

no it is stalking shooting someone to death is assault!

You keep using the term "stalking" but that is not appropriate according to Florida Law. A more appropriate term would probably be "surveilance".

Stalking occurs when one person is repeatedly harassed by another person, with behavior marked by persistent, unwanted contact. The behaviors typical of stalking include numerous phone calls, undesired gifts and following the victim. Because these behaviors cause fear and a diminished quality of life, there are laws in every state against stalking. Florida statutes define stalking as willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly following or harassing a person. Depending on the nature of the harassment, the stalking will either qualify as a misdemeanor or felony.

http://www.ehow.com/list_6647727_flo...king-laws.html

[Jeebus]

That would be 'principles'

Automatic spell checkers changing misspelled words notwithstanding, the statement of fact is still....a fact.

[Grindelwald]

Once again, right wingers take one side on this issue and left wingers take the other. How can political differences split the opinion of an issue like this? Oh right. Race.

Martin is black, he must be guilty.

[Mom49of4]

I don't really see this issue as being right winged or left winged. I simply want to see what happens at trial.

[Grindelwald]

I don't really see this issue as being right winged or left winged. I simply want to see what happens at trial.

Neither do I. Yet somehow, the right-wingers take Zimmerman's side while left-wingers take Martin's side. Why is that?

[Smokey 1]

I am on the side of justice.

[Jeebus]

Once again, right wingers take one side on this issue and left wingers take the other. How can political differences split the opinion of an issue like this? Oh right. Race.

Martin is black, he must be guilty.

And yet others see Martin being black and the killer being not black, therefore he was killed because he was black.

But you must have (hypocritically) missed that post.

[Grindelwald]

I am on the side of justice.

Which, to you, is Zimmerman getting off.

And yet others see Martin being black and the killer being not black, therefore he was killed because he was black.

But you must have (hypocritically) missed that post.

I think people think Zimmerman is guilty because he did shoot Martin, and then there's the classic excuse afterward of self-defense.

[sigmalady]

Automatic spell checkers changing misspelled words notwithstanding, the statement of fact is still....a fact.

It wasn't misspelled, it was misused. 'Principal' and 'principle' have different meanings. Just say thank you and considered it something learned today.

[sigmalady]

I am on the side of justice.

We agree on that.

[Mom49of4]

Neither do I. Yet somehow, the right-wingers take Zimmerman's side while left-wingers take Martin's side. Why is that?

I don't see it that way.

[Grindelwald]

Mom, that is your problem not mine. Seems obvious to me reading through this thread. I know you know who the righties here are and who the lefties are.