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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    It is not his job to reach out to Congress.

    It is their job to do their job.

    Since they won't, he is.
    Their job is to represent the interest and wishes of those who elected them -- the people in their districts.

    And lucky for the country, enough of them have sent a majority of Representatives to Washington who oppose the reckless Obama policies, and will hopefully block everyone of his "investments" (just another word for spending our money) and pet projects of the LWNJs.

    His agenda from the speech is DOA.

    Only in the radical LWNJ mind is opposition to "the other guy" seen as "obstruction." There is no compromise with these nutters - it's either "meet with us (and give in to what we want) or you are in the was of progress." Their way or nothing, and the media lap dogs support this craziness with idolic worship of Glorious Leader and constant toadying.

    Funny, opposition to a political agenda used to be known as "the highest form of patriotism" -- now, it's "obstructionist" and (when all else is failing) racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Their job is to represent the interest and wishes of those who elected them -- the people in their districts.

    And lucky for the country, enough of them have sent a majority of Representatives to Washington who oppose the reckless Obama policies, and will hopefully block everyone of his "investments" (just another word for spending our money) and pet projects of the LWNJs.

    His agenda from the speech is DOA.

    Only in the radical LWNJ mind is opposition to "the other guy" seen as "obstruction." There is no compromise with these nutters - it's either "meet with us (and give in to what we want) or you are in the was of progress." Their way or nothing, and the media lap dogs support this craziness with idolic worship of Glorious Leader and constant toadying.

    Funny, opposition to a political agenda used to be known as "the highest form of patriotism" -- now, it's "obstructionist" and (when all else is failing) racist.
    Whatever names you want to call it, the fact remains that because Congress can't pass the salt, the President is running America singlehandedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    I will never agree that Congress is putting it's best foot forward, but I also at the same time thought Obama would do more to reach out to them. That's what he promised, I believe.
    What hasn't Obama done to reach out to republicans?

    Seems like he's finally wised up and stopped bending over backwards for them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Their job is to represent the interest and wishes of those who elected them -- the people in their districts.

    And lucky for the country, enough of them have sent a majority of Representatives to Washington who oppose the reckless Obama policies, and will hopefully block everyone of his "investments" (just another word for spending our money) and pet projects of the LWNJs.

    His agenda from the speech is DOA.

    Only in the radical LWNJ mind is opposition to "the other guy" seen as "obstruction." There is no compromise with these nutters - it's either "meet with us (and give in to what we want) or you are in the was of progress." Their way or nothing, and the media lap dogs support this craziness with idolic worship of Glorious Leader and constant toadying.

    Funny, opposition to a political agenda used to be known as "the highest form of patriotism" -- now, it's "obstructionist" and (when all else is failing) racist.
    Mitch McConnell - "Top Priority Is To Make Obama a One-Term President"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    It is not his job to reach out to Congress.

    It is their job to do their job.

    Since they won't, he is.
    Obama should be doing it as well. Take a look at what Bill Clinton had to say on the gun control issue for example:

    Robert Knight, a senior fellow at The American Civil Rights Union, (ACRU), agrees.

    "Bill Clinton was amazingly successful because he moderated his left-wing views. He saw that the nation was a center-right nation. He did reach across the aisle," Knight asserts. "Obama seems to have none of those inclinations. And Bill Clinton himself has warned that Obama is overreaching and it might just waken a sleeping giant."

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    What hasn't Obama done to reach out to republicans?

    Seems like he's finally wised up and stopped bending over backwards for them...
    What are some examples of him reaching across party aisles the way Clinton did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    Do you have a link to what Bill Clinton had to say?

    Because, again, you are merely using the opinion of the right wing media to attack Obama.

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    I love how the right wing now deifies Clinton. Ken Starr? Anyone remember that--the "non-partisan" SP? Anyone remember how Clinton was accused of arranging to have our embassies attacked as a "wag the dog" tactic to deflect from his sexual missteps?

    And now they wax eloquent about the good old days? These people are crazy.

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    Ps sosad the above is not directed at you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    What are some examples of him reaching across party aisles the way Clinton did?
    Define "reaching across the aisle"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    Obama seems to be taking Clinton's advice on gun control so far. He hasn't proposed anything that isn't popular with a clear majority of Americans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower
    What hasn't Obama done to reach out to republicans?

    Seems like he's finally wised up and stopped bending over backwards for them...
    Yep, barely 3 days into his 1st term he made sure everyone knew that "elections have consequences, and I won."

    The decline of the Obama presidency can be traced to a meeting at the White House just three days after the inauguration, when the new president gathered congressional leaders of both parties to discuss his proposed economic stimulus. House Republican Whip Eric Cantor gave President Obama a list of modest proposals for the bill. Obama said he would consider the GOP ideas, but told the assembled Republicans that "elections have consequences" and "I won." Backed by the largest congressional majorities in decades, the president was not terribly interested in giving ground to his vanquished adversaries.
    Yes, sounds like a man who's ready to compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Obama seems to be taking Clinton's advice on gun control so far. He hasn't proposed anything that isn't popular with a clear majority of Americans...
    I agree that most virulent right wingers make Obama a bogey man with regard to 'taking' guns. With that said, I am a gun owner and while there are some things I can support with regard to new gun control laws (standardized back ground check/mental health check) just because 'most' Americans want something doesn't mean it should happen or is constitutional. The same argument could be made for the Patriot Act after 9/11: most of us want it, I don't care if I lose some personal freedom. For me, personally, that is a bad argument. In my opinion, the bill of rights, constitution, system of government should work to protect the rights of the minority (whether that is gun owners, gays, ethnic minorities, etc.) not the majority.

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    The only mental health background check is that if a person has been judged in a court of law to be mentally defective or if the person has been involuntarily committed, the person may not buy a gun from a licensed dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Yep, barely 3 days into his 1st term he made sure everyone knew that "elections have consequences, and I won."



    Yes, sounds like a man who's ready to compromise.
    The person who wins gets to set the agenda. Elections have consequences. That means, if you lose you have to deal with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmore108 View Post
    I agree that most virulent right wingers make Obama a bogey man with regard to 'taking' guns. With that said, I am a gun owner and while there are some things I can support with regard to new gun control laws (standardized back ground check/mental health check) just because 'most' Americans want something doesn't mean it should happen or is constitutional. The same argument could be made for the Patriot Act after 9/11: most of us want it, I don't care if I lose some personal freedom. For me, personally, that is a bad argument. In my opinion, the bill of rights, constitution, system of government should work to protect the rights of the minority (whether that is gun owners, gays, ethnic minorities, etc.) not the majority.
    I agree but most of the things that he proposed are common sense and should have been enacted a long time ago. If you're a law abiding citizen, a background check isn't going to infringe on your right to own a gun. At worst, it's an inconvenience to private gun sales.

    My point though is that Obama has a tendency to poll-test his political stances. He takes very few bold or courageous stances. Most of what he proposes has no chance of passing but he gets credit from the media and his base for taking a stance on those issues. It doesn't take any political courage to go with whichever way the political wind is blowing. That's why I say he's pretty Moderate.

    If some of his policies are to the Left of Bill Clinton's it's because the US overall is to the Left of where it was 20 years ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    I love how the right wing now deifies Clinton. Ken Starr? Anyone remember that--the "non-partisan" SP? Anyone remember how Clinton was accused of arranging to have our embassies attacked as a "wag the dog" tactic to deflect from his sexual missteps?

    And now they wax eloquent about the good old days? These people are crazy.
    I'm not right wing, I'm a Democrat. I have always supported Bill Clinton on this board even against the right.

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    I'm not right wing, I'm a Democrat.
    They are not mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Define "reaching across the aisle"
    Clinton worked with Gingrich to get things done. The same can't be said for Obama, but everyone has an excuse for him. Clinton didn't look for excuses, just acted and accomplished things. Now that is a President!

    You have to actually meet with Congress. If Bush simply read reports, and blamed Democrats in Congress, I'd say the same thing.

    Some objectivity is needed here.

    A President is the president of all the people, which includes Congress and all of the people that may not have voted for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    They are not mutually exclusive.
    And Democrats on this board should stop labeling me "right wing". It's incorrect and does not represent my views. I would know my views better than those assigning the labels.

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