Miaa football 2013...whose stepping up to challenge Gilman and Chc

[agentorange]

I saw Loyola much of the season......I disagree with all the talk about their thanksgiving day performance vs the Mcards being afluke...I saw the entire package...blocking...discipile...coaching...and talent at the qb position that makes the players around them better...The Dons can win and win big....

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

I saw Loyola much of the season......I disagree with all the talk about their thanksgiving day performance vs the Mcards being afluke...I saw the entire package...blocking...discipile...coaching...and talent at the qb position that makes the players around them better...The Dons can win and win big....

The Dons can win what? I hope you're not talking about the MIAA. They aren't winning anything no time soon. Next year Gilman will come back to the pack a little but not much. CHC and McDonogh will challenge them for the title, especially since its a bogus paper title without a playoffs. After next year though, it will be very hard for anybody in the Area to beat Gilman. They are just loaded and keep getting the top talent. Loyola is bare and bringing in none of the top recruits. They look like they have given up on football.

[Hallman]

The Dons can win what? I hope you're not talking about the MIAA. They aren't winning anything no time soon. Next year Gilman will come back to the pack a little but not much. CHC and McDonogh will challenge them for the title, especially since its a bogus paper title without a playoffs. After next year though, it will be very hard for anybody in the Area to beat Gilman. They are just loaded and keep getting the top talent. Loyola is bare and bringing in none of the top recruits. They look like they have given up on football.

So why is next year a"bogus title" but the year after that meaningful because you think Gilman pulls away from the pack? Hmmmmm!

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

So why is next year a"bogus title" but the year after that meaningful because you think Gilman pulls away from the pack? Hmmmmm!

Where did I say that the year after that is meaningful? I don't think the title means anything as long as there is no playoffs. I think next year will be competitive but I still see Gilman as the favorite. I just wouldn't be surprised if they lost to McDonogh or CHC.

[harcohorns]

I am confused by this.. There has only been a play-off for 1 year.. So you think all MIAA titles in years past (baring this year) is meaningless?...

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

I am confused by this.. There has only been a play-off for 1 year.. So you think all MIAA titles in years past (baring this year) is meaningless?...

No there has been playoffs for the last two years. I believe all the past Championships meant something because those were BEFORE there was a playoff. But once you start a playoff system, it's just plain stupid to go back to no playoffs. Especially since you ADDED A TEAM to the conference. It will be the only conference in the State that doesn't have a playoff(I don't count the IAC who has VA schools). So to me, the MIAA champion is purely a paper champion. Which means that the importance of OOC games are that much greater.

[agentorange]

the dons can win what? I hope you're not talking about the miaa. They aren't winning anything no time soon. Next year gilman will come back to the pack a little but not much. Chc and mcdonogh will challenge them for the title, especially since its a bogus paper title without a playoffs. After next year though, it will be very hard for anybody in the area to beat gilman. They are just loaded and keep getting the top talent. Loyola is bare and bringing in none of the top recruits. They look like they have given up on football.

yes...i said it...the dons can win the miaa-a...yes they can....

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

yes...i said it...the dons can win the miaa-a...yes they can....

I will beat you whatever you want that Loyola won't win the MIAA in the next five years. This much I'm positive about!

[Jabez]

I will beat you whatever you want that Loyola won't win the MIAA in the next five years. This much I'm positive about!

Be careful what you wish for, GA. There's more money to go around than just at the corner at Roland & Northern Pkwy.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Be careful what you wish for, GA. There's more money to go around than just at the corner at Roland & Northern Pkwy.

It's not about the money, it's about the willingness to spend it. As the old saying goes, "scared money don't make money!"

[First_Down]

Bring me up to speed here. What money and what willingness to spend it are we talking about here? But please don't tell me we are talking about paying for players aka athletic scholarships you conivnced me that a school like Gilman Does Not do. I will be so disappointed if you are changing that stance.

[Outside Looking In]

Bring me up to speed here. What money and what willingness to spend it are we talking about here? But please don't tell me we are talking about paying for players aka athletic scholarships you conivnced me that a school like Gilman Does Not do. I will be so disappointed if you are changing that stance.

Exactly! If they dont give players money to come there then what is the point of having a lot of money? Hmmmmm?

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Bring me up to speed here. What money and what willingness to spend it are we talking about here? But please don't tell me we are talking about paying for players aka athletic scholarships you conivnced me that a school like Gilman Does Not do. I will be so disappointed if you are changing that stance.

Gilman doesn't give Athletic Scholarship but everybody knows that they recruit and provide sizable financial support. It's not a secret. Just like they give plenty of money to kids who are great musicians. School has its own Film Festival for students and give plenty of money to kids with many talents.

[First_Down]

Gilman doesn't give Athletic Scholarship but everybody knows that they recruit and provide sizable financial support. It's not a secret. Just like they give plenty of money to kids who are great musicians. School has its own Film Festival for students and give plenty of money to kids with many talents.

I'm cool with this slant rather then the talk of just having money and willing to spend it. The latter statement has a connotation of the money being there and a discretion of what to use it for rather than solely an academic endowment of sort that must be used for financial aid based solely on need. So are you saying that there are no students at Gilman who receive financial aid but don't need it? If that's the case then I'm okay with what you say. However, if there is a single student say on the football team that receive aid and doesn't need it, especially "recruited players", then I would say that player or players are paid to play or are on athletic scholarship.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

I'm cool with this slant rather then the talk of just having money and willing to spend it. The latter statement has a connotation of the money being there and a discretion of what to use it for rather than solely an academic endowment of sort that must be used for financial aid based solely on need. So are you saying that there are no students at Gilman who receive financial aid but don't need it? If that's the case then I'm okay with what you say. However, if there is a single student say on the football team that receive aid and doesn't need it, especially "recruited players", then I would say that player or players are paid to play or are on athletic scholarship.

I'm not the IRS so I'm not in the next man's bank account. Are they kids getting Aid that doesn't need it, I have not a clue.

[First_Down]

I'm not the IRS so I'm not in the next man's bank account. Are they kids getting Aid that doesn't need it, I have not a clue.

Okay, fair enough GA but if Gilman's financial aid is need based and the school emphasizes "demonstrated financial need" and players received financial aid who did not need it to attend the school, then wouldn't you agree that it then could be reasonably construed as a form of scholarship over aid or support as you characterize it? And if the person say played football under the condition to accept that financial aid, then it would essentially and in essence be an athletic scholarship independent of whether or not your are the IRS and know or not know intimate details of one's wealth, theorectically and reasonably speaking that is? Lets be reasonable here...

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Okay, fair enough GA but if Gilman's financial aid is need based and the school emphasizes "demonstrated financial need" and players received financial aid who did not need it to attend the school, then wouldn't you agree that it then could be reasonably construed as a form of scholarship over aid or support as you characterize it? And if the person say played football under the condition to accept that financial aid, then it would essentially and in essence be an athletic scholarship independent of whether or not your are the IRS and know or not know intimate details of one's wealth, theorectically and reasonably speaking that is? Lets be reasonable here...

Of course it could be. But I don't know of any cases where what you are saying is fact.

[hssports]

Of course Poggi is paying for kids tuition that are not entirely need based....let's not pretend here...To think otherwise is laughable. It is his money and he should be free to do with it as he wishes...

[First_Down]

Of course Poggi is paying for kids tuition that are not entirely need based....let's not pretend here...To think otherwise is laughable. It is his money and he should be free to do with it as he wishes...

I think not. One cannot do whatever one wishes to do with his/her money regarding funds for athletes. If that were the case, many a college boaster wouldn't have some issues many have faced, face now, or will face. The same extends to high school sports and thus it's a significant line of questioning in the clearinghouse questionaire.

[First_Down]

Of course it could be. But I don't know of any cases where what you are saying is fact.

Cool, I just want to hear your ethical opinion on the matter rather than citing whether it was going on at Gilman...