National Signing Day

[meth007]

PPO3


Well as some of you have butchered McManus's great accomplishment of going to Marshall despite all odds in baltimore because great parenting, his own intestinal fortitude and Dunbar the program. I noticed how some of you blamed the school. Such foolish adults... Anyway men lie...women lie but these results don't. One of the most successful signing days in the state...I would say that it is up there with some of the privates. Oh...and did I say that the football program has overall G.P.A over 2.6 collectively... interesting


Dariz Hill DT- Bowie State University
Leland Lassiter DB Howard University
Kyre Hawkins LB James Madison University
Marvin Gross Jr. DE- West Virginia
Nicholas Bonaparte OG Coastal Carolina University
Malik Jones DE University of Maryland

....And another 5 are choosing DII/DIII programs this week....stay tuned

[Outside Looking In]

PPO3


Well as some of you have butchered McManus's great accomplishment of going to Marshall despite all odds in baltimore because great parenting, his own intestinal fortitude and Dunbar the program. I noticed how some of you blamed the school. Such foolish adults... Anyway men lie...women lie but these results don't. One of the most successful signing days in the state...I would say that it is up there with some of the privates. Oh...and did I say that the football program has overall G.P.A over 2.6 collectively... interesting


Dariz Hill DT- Bowie State University
Leland Lassiter DB Howard University
Kyre Hawkins LB James Madison University
Marvin Gross Jr. DE- West Virginia
Nicholas Bonaparte OG Coastal Carolina University
Malik Jones DE University of Maryland

....And another 5 are choosing DII/DIII programs this week....stay tuned

I was always glad to see many kids from Dunbar got to school, but I have to admit, a 2.6 team GPA is not impressive.

[meth007]

It is when you have 53 kids on the roster.... I can not quote how many are honor roll and principal list but there are a lot. In a city like Baltimore where there is less than 60% graduation rate among black males and for Dunbar to send over 90% of its seniors to school, with a 100% graduation rate...I would say that its pretty impressive. No a 2.6 is not a great GPA... we would all like our kids to have at least a B avg or better...but look at the numbers of kids and the odds...thats all I am saying. How many college rosters have a GPA of 2.6 or better?

[harcohorns]

Here is a staggering thought... The new NCAA core course GPA requirement starting 2016 is 2.3 .. NCAA has calculated that 35% of the players that qualified under the current minimums wouldn't qualify to play under the new standard.. 35% that is a huge number..

They also say about 10-15% of the kids who signed NLI's yesterday wont qualify and estimate that number could be upwards of 30-35% if the new minimums were in place..

So obviously Meth you got your work cut out.. 2.6 team GPA ( I assume thats all classes not core courses) wont cut it.. You need to get those boys to 3.0 collectively..(or at least 2.6 core courses)

[meth007]

I would agree HARCO... I believe that this is the job for all football programs across the country. To get 53 players to buy in scholastically and on the field at a high level is not just a school agenda, but it is the role of the village...family too. At Dunbar, they know that they can not set the bar with the other baltimore city football teams whose agenda is to simply encourage many of their roster to entertain graduating and possibly going to college. We understand that we must continue to raise the bar and standards. At the end of the day it is a process. First it may have been to get them all to graduate....then the bar became raising the level of those that actually go to college....next it became raising the bar to the quality of schools that some kids can attend....Now it may be to increase the bar for the entire team to have a GPA above 3.0. At Dunbar we always believe in setting the bar with academics, not just winning rings. With that being said, I don't know any program outside of the privates that would have a roster at or above 3.0 and I would argue that many quality publics out there do not have a collective GPA above 3.0 either.....but again agreed...should!

Coaches please feel free to post your TEAM GPA....lets set the bar this year!

[Outside Looking In]

It is when you have 53 kids on the roster.... I can not quote how many are honor roll and principal list but there are a lot. In a city like Baltimore where there is less than 60% graduation rate among black males and for Dunbar to send over 90% of its seniors to school, with a 100% graduation rate...I would say that its pretty impressive. No a 2.6 is not a great GPA... we would all like our kids to have at least a B avg or better...but look at the numbers of kids and the odds...thats all I am saying. How many college rosters have a GPA of 2.6 or better?

I would say that a lot of colleges/universities have better than a 2.6, but using your logic they have well over 100 on their roster.

[harcohorns]

I would agree HARCO... I believe that this is the job for all football programs across the country. To get 53 players to buy in scholastically and on the field at a high level is not just a school agenda, but it is the role of the village...family too. At Dunbar, they know that they can not set the bar with the other baltimore city football teams whose agenda is to simply encourage many of their roster to entertain graduating and possibly going to college. We understand that we must continue to raise the bar and standards. At the end of the day it is a process. First it may have been to get them all to graduate....then the bar became raising the level of those that actually go to college....next it became raising the bar to the quality of schools that some kids can attend....Now it may be to increase the bar for the entire team to have a GPA above 3.0. At Dunbar we always believe in setting the bar with academics, not just winning rings. With that being said, I don't know any program outside of the privates that would have a roster at or above 3.0 and I would argue that many quality publics out there do not have a collective GPA above 3.0 either.....but again agreed...should!

Coaches please feel free to post your TEAM GPA....lets set the bar this year!

The FOCUS really needs to be on "core course GPA" as that is the only thing that matters(other than SAT and ACT of course)... If a kid has a 3.0 but the strength of that GPA is A's in Art, Gym etc.. and his core course GPA is 2.0 he fails... I am sure you know that but it just needs to be driven home..

One of the things that really bothers me is watching these kids get put through the dog and pony show on signing day in front of their classmates and peers then having to deal with the embarrassment of not qualifying..

This should never happen the goal needs to be every kid who signs qualifies if they arent going to qualify then don't embarrass them by putting on a show.. Just my 2 cents...

[meth007]

I agree...

[bleedingorangeandblack]

http://m.facebook.com/pages/Reginald...297709519&_rdr

according to a post the students had/have a team GPA of 3.0 with 17/26 getting all academic honors


Harco I agree and that's a huge problem within the system where the child is used to promote the school instead of the school preparing the child

[bleedingorangeandblack]

Congrats to all of the young men and women who are able to achieve this goal

[2K10Terp]

The FOCUS really needs to be on "core course GPA" as that is the only thing that matters(other than SAT and ACT of course)... If a kid has a 3.0 but the strength of that GPA is A's in Art, Gym etc.. and his core course GPA is 2.0 he fails... I am sure you know that but it just needs to be driven home..

One of the things that really bothers me is watching these kids get put through the dog and pony show on signing day in front of their classmates and peers then having to deal with the embarrassment of not qualifying..

This should never happen the goal needs to be every kid who signs qualifies if they arent going to qualify then don't embarrass them by putting on a show.. Just my 2 cents...

Great point about the Core Course GPA...A lot of the masses do not know that is what is factered in when considering the transformation from high school to college

[Run&Gun]

Congrats to all the young Men who sign last week. It's a very good accomplishment and their parents and coaches should be proud. My question is will these kids be eligible to play when the season kick off or is there any setbacks on the way (academically of course)?

[First_Down]

Congrats to all the young Men who sign last week. It's a very good accomplishment and their parents and coaches should be proud. My question is will these kids be eligible to play when the season kick off or is there any setbacks on the way (academically of course)?

Come on dude and let's not be so trite. It will happen this year that kids will not play for the school they signed letters of intent to play for as has happened for many many years in the past. The more things have changed, the more they are just the same, nothing new!

There will be a much greater number of kids who will graduate and not find jobs and not because there are no jobs to be had but because they are ill prepared for many jobs. That should be the concern rather than whether a couple jocks go to Stevenson rather than Towson!

[Run&Gun]

Come on dude and let's not be so trite. It will happen this year that kids will not play for the school they signed letters of intent to play for as has happened for many many years in the past. The more things have changed, the more they are just the same, nothing new!

There will be a much greater number of kids who will graduate and not find jobs and not because there are no jobs to be had but because they are ill prepared for many jobs. That should be the concern rather than whether a couple jocks go to Stevenson rather than Towson!

That's so true. But, FD I hope things are different this year. I know Dunbar get a knock for this a lot but happens at a lot of schools and something needs to be done about this situation signing LOI before being eligible to play and in some cases get into the institution.

[First_Down]

That's so true. But, FD I hope things are different this year. I know Dunbar get a knock for this a lot but happens at a lot of schools and something needs to be done about this situation signing LOI before being eligible to play and in some cases get into the institution.

Something needs to be done about the situation to me is almost like saying SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE MATTER. Someone else!!! First, the responsibility for doing what needs to be done to be in a position to accept any offer rest with the players and their parents/guardians. But in the "it takes a village approach," I would ask what have YOU done or are doing to help the situation. That is, are you tutoring youngsters or mentoring them. Do you contribute to any tutoring or mentoring services for these players. It's so easy to just say what you think about the situation and even critique it BUT unless you are actively engaged in righting what you clearly see is so wrong, then you are just spitting into the wind.

Again, many football players from all walks will not be able to accept offers. Some who accept offers will not graduate. It's life; the way it has been and what it will be.

[harcohorns]

Something needs to be done about the situation to me is almost like saying SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE MATTER. Someone else!!! First, the responsibility for doing what needs to be done to be in a position to accept any offer rest with the players and their parents/guardians. But in the "it takes a village approach," I would ask what have YOU done or are doing to help the situation. That is, are you tutoring youngsters or mentoring them. Do you contribute to any tutoring or mentoring services for these players. It's so easy to just say what you think about the situation and even critique it BUT unless you are actively engaged in righting what you clearly see is so wrong, then you are just spitting into the wind.

Again, many football players from all walks will not be able to accept offers. Some who accept offers will not graduate. It's life; the way it has been and what it will be.

Which is exactly why coaches will make more offers than they have schollys for because they know a certain percentage wont qualify... unfortunately sometimes more qualify than they expect and then they have to withdraw offers... Some say its not fair to the kids but if the kids and parent were being honest upfront about them being on pace to qualify then this situation could be resolved. The real unfairness is all the kids that would qualify that could have gotten those offers if you had to qualify before signing..

[First_Down]

Which is exactly why coaches will make more offers than they have schollys for because they know a certain percentage wont qualify... unfortunately sometimes more qualify than they expect and then they have to withdraw offers... Some say its not fair to the kids but if the kids and parent were being honest upfront about them being on pace to qualify then this situation could be resolved. The real unfairness is all the kids that would qualify that could have gotten those offers if you had to qualify before signing..

I don't think coaches make more offers than they have schollys for only because they know certain percentage won't qualify. The mere fact that offered and even committed kids do not go to offered/comitted schools for non-academic matters is just as or even more viable. It could be just pure choices so coaches don't place their careers on the line with teenagers. They offer more than they have and it's usually first-come, first served.

But I like your idea of acceptence to the college/university first just like any other student.

[Run&Gun]

Something needs to be done about the situation to me is almost like saying SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE MATTER. Someone else!!! First, the responsibility for doing what needs to be done to be in a position to accept any offer rest with the players and their parents/guardians. But in the "it takes a village approach," I would ask what have YOU done or are doing to help the situation. That is, are you tutoring youngsters or mentoring them. Do you contribute to any tutoring or mentoring services for these players. It's so easy to just say what you think about the situation and even critique it BUT unless you are actively engaged in righting what you clearly see is so wrong, then you are just spitting into the wind.

Again, many football players from all walks will not be able to accept offers. Some who accept offers will not graduate. It's life; the way it has been and what it will be.

Well yes like I said something needs to be done about this situation. yes it's starts off with the players and parents. But, I'm willing to go deeper then that with your "it takes a village". It should be a concern to every coach, AD, mentor, and administrative. these kids represent all of them. But, lets not leave the NCAA who we all know need to set better standard to help out these school so that alot will become better student athletes. Also, if your asking me if I contribute to my kids edu and tutoring the answer is YES and proud to say several of kids that I've mentor go on the earn academic and Athletic scholarships. Also, for the kids that aren't able earn any I pride myself in working with them to make sure they're working to become better men and earn a degree for themselves as well. If you want to stop by and meet some of my kids or see how it's done feel free to PM me and i'll be more then happy to send you a invite.

[First_Down]

My Man!!!! Then you've earned the right to talk the talk since you walk the walk. So it isn't something needs to be done. Something is being done.

[golflover0311]

I was always glad to see many kids from Dunbar got to school, but I have to admit, a 2.6 team GPA is not impressive.

cManus is going to Marshall? What happened with WVA???