Man trespasses at school ends up in psyciatric ward!

[markh]

This is starting to get crazy.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...,2337395.story

[slapshot]

So, given the increasing frequency of such events, the obvious question pops to mind:

Is gun ownership a precursor to going nuts, or, do you go nuts first, and then get guns?

[demopublican]

So, given the increasing frequency of such events, the obvious question pops to mind:

Is gun ownership a precursor to going nuts, or, do you go nuts first, and then get guns?

Please show me the link that gun crimes are increasing.

[Chesapeake Spirit]

Or are they already nuts and are egged on by all of the media attention the lunatics get when they kill a bunch of people?

[demopublican]

Or are they already nuts and are egged on by all of the media attention the lunatics get when they kill a bunch of people?

Bingo! The media fans the flames and cashes in on the blood.

[overtaxed]

What I would like to see in the so called reporting, is did anyone ask him what he wanted? A school employee let him in. He wasn't armed and he didn't make any threats.

[octoburn]

It's a very good thing to err on the side of caution and investigate in a case like this when a 25~year old person ~ now charged with with misdemeanor trespassing ~ makes the effort to circumvent appropriate measures to gain entry to a school. Our children, teachers, and school staff deserve protection from such illegal entries and access to our schools.

People would be vigorously complaining if they did not investigate or if authorities did not have appropriate concerns as to the reason for someone inappropriately entering a school.

[Informed Thinker]

These kinds of things have been happening forever. For years the concern was a sexual predator. Now it is a mass killing fear. What is new is the fact that press coverage is given to someone getting a psych eval. The real problem is when they don't have insurance and get released by the hospital when there is a need for some sort of help.

[markh]

I just hope they don't start institutionalizing people for the heck of it. If they are giving the guy an evaluation why raid his residence and confiscate legally owned guns? Will he get them back if they are satisfied he is stable? I am all for public safety but I hope this country doesn't degrade into a paranoid, lock them up first and ask questions later environment.

[slapshot]

Please show me the link that gun crimes are increasing.

Please show me where I said anything about "gun crimes"?

Although if this WSJ article means anything....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...684277812.html

[slapshot]

Or are they already nuts and are egged on by all of the media attention the lunatics get when they kill a bunch of people?

Fair enough.

[Informed Thinker]

I just hope they don't start institutionalizing people for the heck of it. If they are giving the guy an evaluation why raid his residence and confiscate legally owned guns? Will he get them back if they are satisfied he is stable? I am all for public safety but I hope this country doesn't degrade into a paranoid, lock them up first and ask questions later environment.

He came into a public school through a back door. Asked about security in the school and said he had attended the school previously and been bullied. He was either a reporter, security assessor or a little lose screw candidate. The search of his home was to see if there was any imminent danger to himself or others. The finding of the weapons cache reinforced the possibility/probability that there was and he was hospitalize for corroboration or dismissal of a threat. He put himself in the position of threat assessment.

[johnpolitics]

If this guy was an ex-co worker and came back to his former company I think assuming the worse would make sense.

[Wizard777]

He came into a public school through a back door. Asked about security in the school and said he had attended the school previously and been bullied. He was either a reporter, security assessor or a little lose screw candidate. The search of his home was to see if there was any imminent danger to himself or others. The finding of the weapons cache reinforced the possibility/probability that there was and he was hospitalize for corroboration or dismissal of a threat. He put himself in the position of threat assessment.

He could have been Heatwoleing them. I don't recommend that anyone do that. Sure Maryland college student Nathaniel Heatwole was a much talked about darling of Congress after he was able to smuggle box cutters and other items onto planes after 9/11 exposing major security lapses. But he was still prosecuted for that.

I can see where the officers might have resonable suspicion. But I don't see where they would have probable cause. How do you get from trespassing to school massacre with this person not making any statements that could even be construed to be a threat? Were they working with a profile of a school shooter developed by the FBI that the guy fit or did they stay at a Holiday Inn Express?

[Wizard777]

No weapons were found on Beaumont or in his car, but officials said they were concerned by statements he made, which they called "extremely unusual and alarming."

That's not good enough. At some point in time they are going to have to release the actual statements he made. If they don't then it gives the appearance that they are now taking "gun nut" literally. If you commit any minor infraction like jaywalking, trespassing, speeding or whatever. The police will check the gun registry. If they find that you own more than one gun. You are a "gun nut." You must now be involuntarily committed for a psych eval and the police will seize your guns. This is the beauty part. Even if the Psych Eval determines that you are not a danger to yourself or others. Can you have your guns back? Hell no! You've been involuntarily committed to a psychiatric institution. Can you buy more guns in the future. Hell no! You've been involuntarily committed to a psychiatric institution. So now you don't have to commit a felony to lose your right to keep and bear arms. Even the smallest offense and owning more than one weapon will do. You're now a gun nut that needs to be committed.

They really need to release those "extremely unusual and alarming" statements. Surely they can't be afraid of the public agreeing with them.

[Gopher]

A statement from the police:

http://www.aacounty.org/Police/PD_Bl...6_News_Release

I’m sure there is more to this story. However, I don’t have a problem with the police reaction to it given the information that is currently available. Mr. Beaumont put himself in this situation. He had no business being on school property, attempting to gain access through doors not normally used by school visitors, gaining access and then wandering around the school and making bizarre statements to investigators. It sounds to me like he volunteered for it.

[Wizard777]

A statement from the police:

http://www.aacounty.org/Police/PD_Bl...6_News_Release

I’m sure there is more to this story. However, I don’t have a problem with the police reaction to it given the information that is currently available. Mr. Beaumont put himself in this situation. He had no business being on school property, attempting to gain access through doors not normally used by school visitors, gaining access and then wandering around the school and making bizarre statements to investigators. It sounds to me like he volunteered for it.

This is another thing I have a problem with. If he's such an obviously wacked out danger to himself or others. Why did they release him?

As result of his unauthorized presence at North County High School, Beaumont was charged with Trespassing on Posted Property, a misdemeanor offense, and later released.

Should that read like this?

As result of his unauthorized presence at North County High School, Beaumont was charged with Trespassing on Posted Property, a misdemeanor offense, later released and then someone had an idea about how to politicize this.


This guys father is an assistant principal at another school. Maybe he though that gave him some kind of special privileges. Like those people you hear saying, "It's okay, my husband is a cop" or you idiot, my dad's a cop.

This has a certain stench to it. I can hardly wait to hear his side.

[Jeebus]

It's a very good thing to err on the side of caution and investigate in a case like this when a 25~year old person ~ now charged with with misdemeanor trespassing ~ makes the effort to circumvent appropriate measures to gain entry to a school. Our children, teachers, and school staff deserve protection from such illegal entries and access to our schools.

Yet, an entire family enters Edmonson High last week, assaults a young female student, starts a riot that last over an hour, yet.......the City Govt, SRB, and the school board is silent as to how better protect the students from these intrusions......

[Informed Thinker]

A limited part of this is covetable by the press. Most of it isn't and is confidential medical information. Getting his guns back will be influenced by the exam.

[Wizard777]

Yet, an entire family enters Edmonson High last week, assaults a young female student, starts a riot that last over an hour, yet.......the City Govt, SRB, and the school board is silent as to how better protect the students from these intrusions......

They probably weren't in the National Guard like this guy. So they can be trusted to properly trespass on posted property. It's people that put their life on the line defending this country that can't be trusted. Thank You for your service and here's your straight jacket. Uh huh.......