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    Quote Originally Posted by Phineas Finn View Post
    Nonsense, absolute nonsense -- not to mention totally unsupported.
    The Buck Stops Here!

    "In his farewell address to the American people given in January 1953, President Truman referred to this concept very specifically in asserting that, "The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job."

    http://www.trumanlibrary.org/buckstop.htm

    But everyone also knows you can't decide if you aren't available!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshan Man View Post
    And for all his supposed incompetence the GOP still can't beat him. What's that say about them?
    Not so much about Obama but rather an indictment of the mental acuity of the American voter.

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    Well Hagel's confirm looks like it's going to get tied up for awhile until some answers come out.

    I still doubt that we'll get any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIKMAN View Post
    Well Hagel's confirm looks like it's going to get tied up for awhile until some answers come out.

    I still doubt that we'll get any.
    He's going to get confirmed eventually. The GOP isn't hurting anyone but themselves and the DoD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    He's going to get confirmed eventually. The GOP isn't hurting anyone but themselves and the DoD.
    Your probably right as he'll get confirmed eventually but he'll be much damaged. GOP doesn't care...not one of their's...and Obama doesn't care because he's not really one of his!

    A man without a party. Agree, DOD might get hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    The Buck Stops Here!

    "In his farewell address to the American people given in January 1953, President Truman referred to this concept very specifically in asserting that, "The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job."

    http://www.trumanlibrary.org/buckstop.htm

    But everyone also knows you can't decide if you aren't available!
    And what evidence do you have that the President was not available. None....thats what I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    And what evidence do you have that the President was not available. None....thats what I thought.
    Obama punted to Panetta for U.S. response to Benghazi attack
    Panetta says the president ‘left it up to us’

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2KzDaaGR2

    Obama passed the buck to Panetta. More leading from behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    And what evidence do you have that the President was not available. None....thats what I thought.
    Prez was disengaged when a consulate was attacked? Evidence really doesn't matter as all of it will never be released.

    Ignoring the problem didn't make it go away. As Flyboy noted, buck ultimately resides with the Prez.

    And as I've saying all along without a response is that an US ambassador is dead and to this point, we know almost nothing about what happened or what's been done about it. After 6 months, answers are past due!

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    Mr. Panetta also fielded questions about other world hot spots during the hearing, including telling Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, that he and Gen. Dempsey had backed a secret plan put forth by then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and then-CIA Director David H. Petraeus to arm opposition rebels fighting to overthrow President Bashar Assad in Syria.


    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2KzH1qVWj


    I distinctly heard Mrs. Clinton deny any such plan to transfer weapons to Libyan fighters during her last hearing. More unanswered questions that the WH and Clinton need to come clean about. This administration can't seem to get it's story straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Obama punted to Panetta for U.S. response to Benghazi attack
    Panetta says the president ‘left it up to us’

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2KzDaaGR2

    Obama passed the buck to Panetta. More leading from behind.
    You said he was not available. And , according to you, he is not supposed to allow his SEC-DEF to lead the agency. You know that is BS! But keep on with your John/Lindsay rant without any evidence to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    You said he was not available. And , according to you, he is not supposed to allow his SEC-DEF to lead the agency. You know that is BS! But keep on with your John/Lindsay rant without any evidence to back it up.
    We know exactly why the Prez stepped away from his leadership role concerning Benghazi. He needed deniability. He knows how to play the dodge and duck game of politics because he learned it in Chicago from the best. Panetta says he can't wait to get the hell out of Washington. I wonder why? Is he tired of covering for an incompetent boss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    We know exactly why the Prez stepped away from his leadership role concerning Benghazi. He needed deniability. He knows how to play the dodge and duck game of politics because he learned it in Chicago from the best. Panetta says he can't wait to get the hell out of Washington. I wonder why? Is he tired of covering for an incompetent boss?
    You evidently have not listened to all that Panetta has to say.

    His comments have been directed to the Congress.

    But you know that. Look up disingenuous.

    Recognize yourself!

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    The pre-election narrative was everything was fine in Libya. Stability was the word on the street. God help any fool who deviated from the narrative. By God the Republicans were waging a war on women and they needed another 4 years of Obama to do something about that. So there was an election to win, not lives to be saved. Look at it through the right filters and it’s all very understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmikey View Post
    The pre-election narrative was everything was fine in Libya. Stability was the word on the street. God help any fool who deviated from the narrative. By God the Republicans were waging a war on women and they needed another 4 years of Obama to do something about that. So there was an election to win, not lives to be saved. Look at it through the right filters and it’s all very understandable.
    I get what you're saying but do you really believe Americans care about Libya anymore than they care about Afghanistan or Iraq?

    Given that the President gets high approval for his foreign policies and Americans care more about the economy than anything else, Benghazi never had the potential to be a game changer.

    The continued insistence that there was some kind of political coverup is rooted in the ridiculous idea that Romney would have been President today if Obama emphasized the fact that it was a terror attack.

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    "The continued insistence that there was some kind of political coverup is rooted in the ridiculous idea that Romney would have been President today if Obama emphasized the fact that it was a terror attack." soulflower

    Whether that would have been a game changer or not is debatable. But it is how Obama possibly feared the truth would have been a game changer and therefore felt the need to cover it up even though Panetta said he knew it was a planned terrorist attack immediately. A phone call to the survivors would have confirmed that within days as well. So why were no phone calls made before sending Rice out on talk shows to get the facts Americans deserved? Either it was an intentional cover up or the administration is full of serious incompetent leaders. Take you pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    You said he was not available. And , according to you, he is not supposed to allow his SEC-DEF to lead the agency. You know that is BS! But keep on with your John/Lindsay rant without any evidence to back it up.
    "I am ultimately responsible for what's taking place there because these are my folks, and I'm the one who has to greet those coffins when they come home," Obama said during a debate with Republican presidential challenger Mitt Romney in New York.

    "These are just representatives of the United States, they are my representatives. I send them there, often times into harms way," Obama said.

    Calling campaign contributors must have been more important than saving lives-clear dereliction of duty !

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Obama punted to Panetta for U.S. response to Benghazi attack
    Panetta says the president ‘left it up to us’

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2KzDaaGR2

    Obama passed the buck to Panetta. More leading from behind.
    Even if this speculative scenario is true -- heaven forbid that he defer to experts.

    Tell you what, the next time you're scheduled for surgery, make them keep you awake so that you can advise the surgeon on what instruments to use.

    And whatever happened to the "He watched in real time" indictment?

    This tantrum gets more silly every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmikey View Post
    The pre-election narrative was everything was fine in Libya. Stability was the word on the street. God help any fool who deviated from the narrative. By God the Republicans were waging a war on women and they needed another 4 years of Obama to do something about that. So there was an election to win, not lives to be saved. Look at it through the right filters and it’s all very understandable.
    How often did Governor Romney bring up foreign policy during the campaign (prior to Benghazi)?

    The idea that Obama had to "cover up" Benghazi and made a decision to do so within hours of the attack is a fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackPlanR View Post
    Obama Won!!!!!


    Kerry will be the new Sec. State!!!!!


    Time to move on!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan View Post
    C'mon The Shadow, it was ONLY a diplomat and a mission under attack.

    Now, had it been a radical, black professor with a chip on his shoulder (Gates) because a police officer questioned him or a black thug (Martin) that got just what he deserved, that would be a priority and warranted Barry's undivided attention.
    Hussein doesn't care about the people doing his dirty work. He only worries about his "homies".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phineas Finn View Post
    Even if this speculative scenario is true -- heaven forbid that he defer to experts.

    Tell you what, the next time you're scheduled for surgery, make them keep you awake so that you can advise the surgeon on what instruments to use.

    And whatever happened to the "He watched in real time" indictment?

    This tantrum gets more silly every day.
    Right now everything is still open for speculation. The president has not said where he was during the attack. We only know what Panetta has testified to. As Penatta stated, Obama left it up to him to take care of things. After the 30 minute pre-scheduled meeting no further communications with Obama took place, again, according to Panetta's testimony.

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