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Thread: Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi...Hillary Was AWOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Right now everything is still open for speculation. The president has not said where he was during the attack. We only know what Panetta has testified to. As Penatta stated, Obama left it up to him to take care of things. After the 30 minute pre-scheduled meeting no further communications with Obama took place, again, according to Panetta's testimony.
    What should Obama have done after speaking to Panetta? Should he have taken Air Force One to Libya and rescued the survivors himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    What should Obama have done after speaking to Panetta? Should he have taken Air Force One to Libya and rescued the survivors himself?
    Phone calls to the Libyan government would have helped put them on notice. A concerned boss in such a serious situation would have "requested" periodic updates. When a Coast Guard asset is dispatched out into bad weather on a rescue operation the Commanding Officer is always actively in the loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Phone calls to the Libyan government would have helped put them on notice.
    The Libyan government was on notice. The Pentagon and CIA were in contact with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    The Libyan government was on notice. The Pentagon and CIA were in contact with them.
    A personal phone call from the President of the United States has much more pull. Libya, for good reason, may not trust the US military or the CIA for messing around in their back yard unbeknownst to them stealing their weapons and shipping them off to Libya. If Byng were here with us he'd be the first to confirm this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    A personal phone call from the President of the United States has much more pull. Libya, for good reason, may not trust the US military or the CIA for messing around in their back yard unbeknownst to them stealing their weapons and shipping them off to Libya. If Byng were here with us he'd be the first to confirm this.
    You take a lot of liberty when you speak for Byng. My reading of his opinion versus your opinion is that you all were very seldom on the same page.

    I guess you might be surprised to know that I found Byng to be very intelligent on matters related to national security. You, not so much. Your comments are always clouded by right wing politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    You take a lot of liberty when you speak for Byng. My reading of his opinion versus your opinion is that you all were very seldom on the same page.

    I guess you might be surprised to know that I found Byng to be very intelligent on matters related to national security. You, not so much. Your comments are always clouded by right wing politics.
    Yet I always provided a link to back up my thoughts surrounding Benghazi. And SoSad usually shared the same beliefs while providing links of her own to support her ideas. As for Byng, if you had been keeping up with his theory you'd know he believes the CIA was moving weapons to Turkey with the help of the Turkish ambassador via Stevens using the consulate as the meeting place. So stick that in your well worn pipe and smoke it, agitator.

    Turkish ship moves Libyan weapons taken from Benghazi headed for Syrian rebels. Shoulder fired missiles (SAM-7) reportedly missing from Libyan government.

    http://www.syriaonline.sy/?f=Details...=3618&catid=24

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    What should Obama have done after speaking to Panetta? Should he have taken Air Force One to Libya and rescued the survivors himself?
    He should have gotten off his a@@, grown a pair and ordered the Secretary of Defense to
    communicate with Africom Commander General Ham and deploy troops and/or air support to rescue the Americans in danger......is that clear enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry K View Post
    He should have gotten off his a@@, grown a pair and ordered the Secretary of Defense to
    communicate with Africom Commander General Ham and deploy troops and/or air support to rescue the Americans in danger......is that clear enough?
    Do you really expect a lawyer to act like someone with military leadership experience who would have immediately known how to handle his job as the Commander in Chief? That title is a joke when someone of Obama's lack of military experience carry's it. He did exactly what a lawyer would have done and that is cover his a-double-s at a time when Presidential leadership was needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry K View Post
    He should have gotten off his a@@, grown a pair and ordered the Secretary of Defense to
    communicate with Africom Commander General Ham and deploy troops and/or air support to rescue the Americans in danger......is that clear enough?
    All 30 Americans were evacuated from Benghazi within 8 hrs. I don't see how one could argue that they were abandoned when they clearly were not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    All 30 Americans were evacuated from Benghazi within 8 hrs. I don't see how one could argue that they were abandoned when they clearly were not.
    And the other 4 including an ambassador was just collateral damage? And I'm sure we can thank the guys that were left there to defend for themselves for saving those mysterious survivors we have yet to hear from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    All 30 Americans were evacuated from Benghazi within 8 hrs. I don't see how one could argue that they were abandoned when they clearly were not.
    30 additional Americans would have been dead were it not for Tyrone Woods & Glen Doherty, taking independent action without any assistance or counsel from Panetta,Clinton or Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry K View Post
    30 additional Americans would have been dead were it not for Tyrone Woods & Glen Doherty, taking independent action without any assistance or counsel from Panetta,Clinton or Obama.
    If you think the survivors were evacuated without any support from Washington DC, you're wrong. Everything you post on this topic is factually wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Yet I always provided a link to back up my thoughts surrounding Benghazi. And SoSad usually shared the same beliefs while providing links of her own to support her ideas. As for Byng, if you had been keeping up with his theory you'd know he believes the CIA was moving weapons to Turkey with the help of the Turkish ambassador via Stevens using the consulate as the meeting place. So stick that in your well worn pipe and smoke it, agitator.

    Turkish ship moves Libyan weapons taken from Benghazi headed for Syrian rebels. Shoulder fired missiles (SAM-7) reportedly missing from Libyan government.

    http://www.syriaonline.sy/?f=Details...=3618&catid=24

    Obama has said he's against sending heavy weapons to Syrian rebels.

    So either, the CIA is sending weapons to Syria secretly without Obama's approval or Obama is lying about not wanting to arm the Syrian rebels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    If you think the survivors were evacuated without any support from Washington DC, you're wrong. Everything you post on this topic is factually wrong...
    Really? Calling Obama and his administration incompetent is wrong?

    Perhaps you can cite some examples of "Everything you post on this topic is factually wrong" and factually viable sources contradicting my statements.

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    When Terry K comes into the picture to support Flyboy you have to look around the corner to see how far behind the other birfers are.

    This is not about Benghazi, Libya, Turkey or the Americans who lost their lives for these two. Its all about their hate for Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry K View Post
    Really? Calling Obama and his administration incompetent is wrong?

    Perhaps you can cite some examples of "Everything you post on this topic is factually wrong" and factually viable sources contradicting my statements.
    You've made dozens of false claims on this topic and I've refuted most of them. I'm not going to waste anymore energy correcting you. Just read the CIA's timeline of events that evening...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    You've made dozens of false claims on this topic and I've refuted most of them. I'm not going to waste anymore energy correcting you. Just read the CIA's timeline of events that evening...
    just like obama....never answer a direct question and deflect and obfuscate whenever possible.

    "I am ultimately responsible for what's taking place there because these are my folks, and I'm the one who has to greet those coffins when they come home," Obama said during a debate with Republican presidential challenger Mitt Romney in New York.

    "These are just representatives of the United States, they are my representatives. I send them there, often times into harms way," Obama said.

    ""if we find out that there was a big breakdown and somebody didn't do their job" regarding the attack on the U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, "then they'll be held responsible."

    It is quite clear there was a big breakdown.....It is quite clear somebody didn't do their job and It is quite clear Obama should be held responsible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Obama has said he's against sending heavy weapons to Syrian rebels.

    So either, the CIA is sending weapons to Syria secretly without Obama's approval or Obama is lying about not wanting to arm the Syrian rebels.
    One name; Brennan. If transferring guns from Libya to Syria is taking place he's the guy behind. Obama's pick for CIA Director.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    One name; Brennan. If transferring guns from Libya to Syria is taking place he's the guy behind. Obama's pick for CIA Director.
    Your evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Your evidence?
    Evidence of gun's being transferred or Brennan's (CIA) involvement?

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