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    In my opinion yes, gay marriage should be legalized and in every state. The decision to get married should not be limited based on the sex of the two individuals. It should be the decision of those who want to wed. If two people find themselves in a relationship that has developed to where they feel strong enough of a bond where marriage would be the next step, then they should have the opportunity to do so.
    Every state should legally have to accept and offer all the opportunities to gay couples that are given to heterosexual couples. However whether or not a church wants to marry a gay couple should be up to the church and not the government. Some find this act immoral and against what they believe in, therefore the decision should be up to them.
    A few topics that are frequently argued about when it comes to this question are abilities to raise children, divorce of the couples, and way of living. When it comes to raising children, gay people are just as physically and emotionally capable to raise children as a heterosexual person. People are going to get divorced regardless of their sexual orientation, it a risk that comes with getting married and is a known possible outcome that everyone getting married is aware of. The way of living that a married couple chooses should be a personal choice and no one has the right to try and tell or dictate how someone should live their life.
    The main point I am trying to get across is that we should not try to control how certain people want to live and who they want to share their experiences with along the way. Everyone should have the right to choose what makes them happy the most and to pursue whatever it may be. We are all humans and because of that we are going to make mistakes. Those mistakes, however, are not made because one is gay but because they are simply human.

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    I don't care either way. Since I don't care, why would I want to restrict someone else's rights?

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    Yeah, I think a couple of guys wanting to say they’re married to each other is a bit silly, but it’s no skin off my back, so why not? It does no harm to anyone and it’ll make people who need that sort of thing happy, and a little more happiness in this ****ed-up world of ours has got to be a good thing. So yeah I’m for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Since marriage is done under the auspices of the government, likewise divorce is as well.
    "But the truth is that it is only by believing in God that we can ever criticise the Government. Once abolish the God, and the Government becomes the God. The fact is written all across human history; but it is written more plainly across that recent history of Russia; which was created by Lenin. There the Government is the God, and all the more the God, because it proclaims aloud in accents of thunder, like every other God worth worshipping, the one essential commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me."

    ...The truth is that Irreligion is the opium of the people. Wherever the people do not believe in something beyond the world, they will worship the world. But, above all, they will worship the strongest thing in the world. And, by the very nature of the Bolshevist and many other modern systems, as well as by the practical working of almost any system, the State will be strongest thing in the world. The whole tendency of men is to treat the solitary State as the solitary standard. That men may protest against law, it is necessary that they should believe in justice; that they may believe in justice beyond law, it is necessary that they should believe in a justice beyond the land of living men. You can impose the rule of the Bolshevist as you can impose the rule of the Bourbons; but it is equally an imposition. You can even make its subjects contented, as opium would make them contented. But if you are to have anything like divine discontent, then it must really be divine. Anything that really comes from below must really come from above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    I don't support it but it should be left to the legislatures in each state. It should not be imposed from Washington.
    I'd be fine with that so long as a marriage performed in one state was recognized nationwide whether or not a state's legislature passed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResearcher View Post
    "But the truth is that it is only by believing in God that we can ever criticise the Government. Once abolish the God, and the Government becomes the God. ...

    -Christendom in Dublin (1932): GK Chesterton
    If you're actually trying to use that illogic against homosexuality, then when are you going to bring back all the other ridiculous Mosaic rules that nobody follows except a handful of angry extremists?

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    Marriage equality needs to be accepted because young homosexual individuals need to be able to plan for the future for so they can achieve social stability, rather than be forced to live on the fringes of society where they might fall into chaos. Gay folks need to have their love validated by the rest of us so that they can feel welcome participating in society. It is the interest of our civilization to normalize formal, public relationships among homosexuals. Just ask Alan Turing for confirmation of this view.
    Last edited by Kenect2; 04-17-2013 at 12:59 AM.

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    As far as I'm concerned it's a civil rights issue, we as a nation can't deny one segment of society a right that everyone else has. If they want to be miserable, more power to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResearcher View Post
    "But the truth is that it is only by believing in God that we can ever criticise the Government. Once abolish the God, and the Government becomes the God. The fact is written all across human history; but it is written more plainly across that recent history of Russia; which was created by Lenin. There the Government is the God, and all the more the God, because it proclaims aloud in accents of thunder, like every other God worth worshipping, the one essential commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me."

    ...The truth is that Irreligion is the opium of the people. Wherever the people do not believe in something beyond the world, they will worship the world. But, above all, they will worship the strongest thing in the world. And, by the very nature of the Bolshevist and many other modern systems, as well as by the practical working of almost any system, the State will be strongest thing in the world. The whole tendency of men is to treat the solitary State as the solitary standard. That men may protest against law, it is necessary that they should believe in justice; that they may believe in justice beyond law, it is necessary that they should believe in a justice beyond the land of living men. You can impose the rule of the Bolshevist as you can impose the rule of the Bourbons; but it is equally an imposition. You can even make its subjects contented, as opium would make them contented. But if you are to have anything like divine discontent, then it must really be divine. Anything that really comes from below must really come from above.

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    Rubbish

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    It's hard to imagine how anyone not deep in the closet would care that gays get married. It's no skin off of my back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    It's hard to imagine how anyone not deep in the closet would care that gays get married. It's no skin off of my back.
    It's not that hard to understand. Legalizing gay marriage might well detract from the vicarious pleasure some seem to derive from imagining that "gays somewhere are doing it" all the time ~ the old "forbidden fruit always tastes better" thingy some might like to fantasize about.

    And what if same~sex marriages turn out to have a higher percentage success rate than heterosexual marriages do now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    I personally don't care one way or the other as it doesn't affect me. I just don't think it would be right to force any church to marry anyone if it is against their beliefs. Churches should be granted immunity from discrimination laws.

    Churches should be abolished.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by reg_indy View Post
    Churches should be abolished.....
    And their tax exemptions should be abolished.

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    ITT: Six bigots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reg_indy View Post
    Churches should be abolished.....
    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    And their tax exemptions should be abolished.

    Why? Have you ever heard of the First Amendment?

    And if churches are abolished, there will be no churches to be tax exempt.

    These two posts don't make a lot of sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Why? Have you ever heard of the First Amendment?

    And if churches are abolished, there will be no churches to be tax exempt.

    These two posts don't make a lot of sense.
    It was in response to the post about immunity from churches for discrimination laws, as if church and discrimination should be in the same sentence?

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    I actually think allowing gays and lesbians to marry their partner of choice would have a strengthening effect on straight families.

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