Unlike your team, our Super Bowl was played on February 3rd not December 9thOriginally Posted by HAIL2BNG
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Unlike your team, our Super Bowl was played on February 3rd not December 9th
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Who said that? Not me. You can twist all you'd like but all I did was respond to an apparently poorly phrased comment. Like I said, the best advice is to say what you mean the first time.
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Feel free to point out specific posts where I have made posts intended to rile people up or cause problems. All I do is respond to the stupid sh it that other people post.
You can go back through these threads and all I've ever done is praise the Ravens and their organization. Even after they lost to the Skins, you won't find a single post from me gloating about the win, talking smack, etc.
So, please, yeah... keep calling me the "troll."
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Just wondering something. My guess is you are a Washington fan to begin with. So why do you care that a BB made up overwhelming with Ravens might post "stupid sh it"? That type of stuff goes on all over the net when it comes to sports talk. Not trying to be smart but I just don't get it. I could care less what is posted on any Pittsburgh, Cincinnati or Cleveland BB about the Ravens. Just wondering.Feel free to point out specific posts where I have made posts intended to rile people up or cause problems. All I do is respond to the stupid sh it that other people post.
You can go back through these threads and all I've ever done is praise the Ravens and their organization. Even after they lost to the Skins, you won't find a single post from me gloating about the win, talking smack, etc.
So, please, yeah... keep calling me the "troll."
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I signed up on this message board for debate and discussion - this is not a Ravens board. It's a Baltimore board with a "Ravens" section. I live in the Baltimore area, and that's why I joined. I care about it as much as any other threads I post on on these forums. I see a topic that interests me, I read it and if I feel like engaging in the discussion, then I will. I rarely post anything on any Ravens threads, but when an obvious topic about the Skins pops up, it's going to pique my interest.
I guess I care as much as any other person here cares about anything else that gets posted on these boards, if that makes any sense.
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Never said it was just a Ravens board and let's be honest, for the most part you are not going to find anything positive about Washington posted here by Baltimore fans many of which hate Washington.
To argue with Ravens fans who don't like Washington over if they view the name to be racist seems like a waste of time to me.
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You are probably right, which is why I will usually disappear after a few posts.
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and while I have added to the thread, I can't believe it's lasted this long.You are probably right, which is why I will usually disappear after a few posts.
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really? look how long hail2troll kept the rg3 thread going .......
he has 57 post on this thread, almost 2X the poster with the second most ......
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I won't give up on some of you. I am convinced your ignorance can be overcome, not yours though.
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Just curious what people's opinion is on this but who decides what is or isn't racist? I would think it would be the race that the term applies to. Under that logic if Native Americans feel the work Redskin is offensive wouldn't that be the basis to make it offensive?
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You are correct. The majority of Native Americans don't find the team name offensive:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...xALe-c6NVdOjkA
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That was almost a decade ago. PC has gotten stronger and probably pushes that number significantly higher today.
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What has happened in the past 10 years that has significantly altered relations with Native Americans? If anything has changed, it's non-Native Americans' (i.e., White people's) views on the term.
Native Americans are more uneasy over the use of Native American iconography in sports (in general) than the specific Redskin name.
Redskins as a team name is no more offensive/disparaging than the Indians, Braves, etc.
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Unless one is a professional "victim advocate", "activist", "race-monger" or other type of rabble-rouser. That person is just looking for causes about which to rabble-rouse.
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Bingo.
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http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...tayac-redskins
Most Indians would prefer to see the Redskins name discarded, they said.
“If it went through a vote [of Indians], I think it would be overwhelming to drop it.
I’ve always thought the word [Redskins] was very offensive,” said George Tiger, chief of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, which is also based in Oklahoma and has 75,000 members.
All major Native American organizations have formally called on sports teams to discard Indian names and mascots.
Here in the Washington region, the chief of the Piscataway Indian Nation has been staging protests against the team’s name since 1980.
“If the team had another name related to black folks, that stadium would be on fire,” Billy Redwing Tayac said.
“Redskins is a racial slur for North American Indians.”
Allen doesn’t understand (or won’t acknowledge) that it’s not up to him, a white man, to decide what offends Native Americans.
“They’re saying that it’s an honor. They’re not taking our word for it, Native people’s word for it, that we don’t want this,” said Robert Holden, deputy director of the National Congress of American Indians. It is the largest, oldest and most representative organization of Native American tribes.
“From the board’s perspective, and from students’ perspective, it has an offensive connotation to Native peoples,” Superintendent C.J. Hebert said.
Yahtzee!
I won't give up on some of you. I am convinced your ignorance can be overcome!
Last edited by Marchetti; 02-20-2013 at 11:09 PM.
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Nice selective quoting, Petunia Petulance.
“It doesn’t bother me one bit. There are other issues that we should be concerned about,” said George Blanchard, governor of the Absentee Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, which counts about 3,000 members.Part of me thinks we need to do the right thing and remove any honorable usage of Indian names as mascots. No more Redskins, Warriors or anything at all. After all, they got their butts handed to them pretty badly. We don't name sports teams after the Red Coats or Nazis who we beat. Why honor the Indians this way? Erase them from any mention and let them sit in obscurity on their tax free land. I don't know of another group of people who got to stick around after their battle losses and even got special benefits. We should give them what they want and take the rest as well.Some members of Blanchard’s tribe send their children to McLoud High School, whose team is also called the Redskins. The Washington team has pointed to the McLoud nickname as evidence that the word was acceptable to Native Americans.
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Believe me, those special benefits ain't so great. Go spend some time on a reservation out in the Dakotas and get back to me...
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I wasn't going to bring this up on my own, because it gets away from sports and becomes a socio-political discussion. but since you brought it up, you are totally correct. I've been on a few Arizona reservations. it's pretty bad.
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