You can go back through these threads and all I've ever done is praise the Ravens and their organization. Even after they lost to the Skins, you won't find a single post from me gloating about the win, talking smack, etc.
So, please, yeah... keep calling me the "troll."
I guess I care as much as any other person here cares about anything else that gets posted on these boards, if that makes any sense.
To argue with Ravens fans who don't like Washington over if they view the name to be racist seems like a waste of time to me.
Just curious what people's opinion is on this but who decides what is or isn't racist? I would think it would be the race that the term applies to. Under that logic if Native Americans feel the work Redskin is offensive wouldn't that be the basis to make it offensive?
What has happened in the past 10 years that has significantly altered relations with Native Americans? If anything has changed, it's non-Native Americans' (i.e., White people's) views on the term.
Native Americans are more uneasy over the use of Native American iconography in sports (in general) than the specific Redskin name.
Redskins as a team name is no more offensive/disparaging than the Indians, Braves, etc.
Most Indians would prefer to see the Redskins name discarded, they said.
“If it went through a vote [of Indians], I think it would be overwhelming to drop it.
I’ve always thought the word [Redskins] was very offensive,” said George Tiger, chief of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, which is also based in Oklahoma and has 75,000 members.
All major Native American organizations have formally called on sports teams to discard Indian names and mascots.
Here in the Washington region, the chief of the Piscataway Indian Nation has been staging protests against the team’s name since 1980.
“If the team had another name related to black folks, that stadium would be on fire,” Billy Redwing Tayac said.
“Redskins is a racial slur for North American Indians.”
Allen doesn’t understand (or won’t acknowledge) that it’s not up to him, a white man, to decide what offends Native Americans.
“They’re saying that it’s an honor. They’re not taking our word for it, Native people’s word for it, that we don’t want this,” said Robert Holden, deputy director of the National Congress of American Indians. It is the largest, oldest and most representative organization of Native American tribes.
“From the board’s perspective, and from students’ perspective, it has an offensive connotation to Native peoples,” Superintendent C.J. Hebert said.
I won't give up on some of you. I am convinced your ignorance can be overcome!
Last edited by Marchetti; 02-20-2013 at 11:09 PM.
Nice selective quoting, Petunia Petulance.
“It doesn’t bother me one bit. There are other issues that we should be concerned about,” said George Blanchard, governor of the Absentee Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, which counts about 3,000 members.Part of me thinks we need to do the right thing and remove any honorable usage of Indian names as mascots. No more Redskins, Warriors or anything at all. After all, they got their butts handed to them pretty badly. We don't name sports teams after the Red Coats or Nazis who we beat. Why honor the Indians this way? Erase them from any mention and let them sit in obscurity on their tax free land. I don't know of another group of people who got to stick around after their battle losses and even got special benefits. We should give them what they want and take the rest as well.Some members of Blanchard’s tribe send their children to McLoud High School, whose team is also called the Redskins. The Washington team has pointed to the McLoud nickname as evidence that the word was acceptable to Native Americans.
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