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    From the administration that gave us Michael Brown at FEMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttackPlanR View Post
    You're a dying breed ET. Not many Cheney apologists around any more.
    not an apologist, just not one given to just throwing around random hyperbole ......

    folks make him out to be the devil, just asked why ......

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    If one of the prime architects of the Iraq war and the great recession doesn't like what Barack is doing, it's probably actually good. Cheney is a bit of a reverse barometer.

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    Less devil, more Darth Vader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeIdiot View Post
    This is all just charades. There's very little sunlight between Obama's and Cheney's preferred national security policies. Both believe in an all powerful and secretive executive branch and that civil liberties should always take a back seat to the presidential prerogative. If anything Obama owes Cheney a beer. Without him Obama's kill list probably wouldn't be possible, or at the very least would be much more controversial than it is.
    In a just world both of them would be prosecuted for their actions, but then this is post-9/11 America, something very different.
    Shhhh! You shouldn't say these things. The left enjoys bashing Bush's "neocon" administration. They don't want to hear that Obama's foreign policy is probably more "neocon" than any other president with the exception of Bush. And they certainly hate the "both sides are the same" argument. It just makes their stomach twitch. Just ignore all those drone strikes and collateral damage. It's all good.

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    "Last Throes"

    'nuf said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    Shhhh! You shouldn't say these things. The left enjoys bashing Bush's "neocon" administration. They don't want to hear that Obama's foreign policy is probably more "neocon" than any other president with the exception of Bush. And they certainly hate the "both sides are the same" argument. It just makes their stomach twitch. Just ignore all those drone strikes and collateral damage. It's all good.
    You make some good points. If Bush or Mitt was doing this the dems would want impeachment.
    It is a tough job. It is easy to run but the reality of the world is different.
    At the same time the GOP refuses to credit Obama for stopping terrorism. After Bin Laden was killed they refused to praise Obama for making a tough call that if it had gone wrong would have been the mother of all cluster F's. The GOP and Bibi praised America and the troops but not the guy whose job was on the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpolitics View Post
    You make some good points. If Bush or Mitt was doing this the dems would want impeachment.
    It is a tough job. It is easy to run but the reality of the world is different.
    At the same time the GOP refuses to credit Obama for stopping terrorism. After Bin Laden was killed they refused to praise Obama for making a tough call that if it had gone wrong would have been the mother of all cluster F's. The GOP and Bibi praised America and the troops but not the guy whose job was on the line.
    I won't argue with you at all about that. While the left refuses to face the fact that their party is virtually the same as the opposition, so does the right. The right continually screams about the spending problems of the left without acknowledging that for all of the rhetoric coming from their party, they are just as guilty, if not more, in practice of spending with no concern for fiscal responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    Shhhh! You shouldn't say these things. The left enjoys bashing Bush's "neocon" administration. They don't want to hear that Obama's foreign policy is probably more "neocon" than any other president with the exception of Bush. And they certainly hate the "both sides are the same" argument. It just makes their stomach twitch. Just ignore all those drone strikes and collateral damage. It's all good.
    Your rule of equivocation conveniently leaves out the small point that the Bush administration got us into Iraq by pzzing over the rule of law and concocting evidence. Should Obama have just left? Yeah, but the Pottery Barn status quo rule states that was not the adult way to disengage. As for Obama find me a president that has reduced the inherited power of the office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    I won't argue with you at all about that. While the left refuses to face the fact that their party is virtually the same as the opposition, so does the right. The right continually screams about the spending problems of the left without acknowledging that for all of the rhetoric coming from their party, they are just as guilty, if not more, in practice of spending with no concern for fiscal responsibility.
    Oligarchy for the ten thousandth time! It's not rocket science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...rate-nominees/

    Imagine.

    At what point did this despicable fool decide his opinion had validity?
    On a positive note he appears thin and frail.

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    Cheney can only be described as a puking hell-hated hedge-pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside Terp View Post
    what lies would they be? ....
    Let's begin with the biggest one:

    2004 - Vice President Dick Cheney said Thursday the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq, and he said media reports suggesting that the 9/11 commission has reached a contradictory conclusion were "irresponsible."

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...iraq.al.qaeda/

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    2009 - "I do not believe and have never seen any evidence to confirm that [Hussein] was involved in 9/11. We had that reporting for a while, [but] eventually it turned out not to be true," Cheney conceded.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/01/cheney.speech/

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    Cheney lie
    People die.

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