SC Bill Steps Up To Protect Unorganized Militia From Fed's Gun Grab

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

Right you are. It's a debate technique.

A pretty weak one, as it requires extrapolating your opponents argument to an improbable extreme. A sharp debater would not have to resort to improbable extremes to make a point.

[veritas]

Ok so as an example of how you can't read minds, I don't think conservatives hate immigrants and black people. I think they have been pretty stupid in how they relate to those groups, but being stupid isn't the same as hating, is it? How simplistic can you get?

Again, what happened the last time there was an assault weapons ban? Slippery slope? Hmm no. Uprising? Again, no.

You buy into that hyperventilation the NRA pushes. From my cold dead hands, what a crock. Nothing but nothing sells like fear.

Except maybe that delicious feeling of victimhood.

I have no clue what the NRA's exact positions are and I am not a spokesman for anyone but myself. Perhaps you'd like to address the efficacy of a so called assault weapons ban, a ban that will target weapons used in under 1% of all crimes and which are in no way required to carry out a massacre. (See VA Tech, Columbine & Ft. Hood, for example.)

[ms maggie]

I have no clue what the NRA's exact positions are and I am not a spokesman for anyone but myself. Perhaps you'd like to address the efficacy of a so called assault weapons ban, a ban that will target weapons used in under 1% of all crimes and which are in no way required to carry out a massacre. (See VA Tech, Columbine & Ft. Hood, for example.)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-shootings-map

Since 1982 there have been 142 mass shooting incidents in the US.

A quarter of them involved assaut weapons.

And an assault weapon was used at Columbine.

[ms maggie]

That explains why "astute" reader isn't actually familiar with it.

The earlier dialogs of Plato (424 - 348 BC), relating the debates of his teacher Socrates, raised the use of reductio arguments to a formal dialectical method.Typically Socrates' opponent would make an innocuous claim, then Socrates by a step-by-step train of reasoning, bringing in other background assumptions, would make the person admit that the assertion resulted in a contradictory conclusion, forcing him to abandon his assertion. The technique was also a focus of the work of Aristotle (384 - 322 BC).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

Chortle.

[Smokey 1]

And an assault weapon was used at Columbine.

What assault weapon was used at Columbine?

[slapshot]

What assault weapon was used at Columbine?

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/shot0427a.htm

"On their April 20 rampage at Columbine High School, Klebold, 17, and Eric Harris, 18, packed an arsenal of an Intratec TEC-DC9 semiautomatic handgun, a HiPoint 9mm semiautomatic carbine and two sawed-off shotguns. It's illegal for anyone to saw the barrel off shotguns, the weapons that Klebold and Harris apparently used to kill themselves in the school library.
Investigators still don't know how the two killers obtained the TEC-DC9, the DA said."


Some refer to the TEC-DC9 as an "assault pistol". Personally, I'm not getting into a discussion of what some do, or don't think is an "assault weapon" . That's an endless loop...

But here is more info on that weapon:

"After the Cleveland School massacre, the TEC-9 was in California's list of banned weapons. To circumvent this, Intratec rebranded the TEC-9 as the TEC-DC9 from 1990 to 1994 (DC standing for "Designed for California"). The most noticeable external difference between the TEC-9 and the later TEC-DC9 is that rings to hold the sling were moved from the side of the gun with the cocking handle, to a removable stamped metal clip in the back of the gun. The TEC-9 and DC-9 are otherwise identical.[citation needed]

The TEC-9 and, eventually, TEC-DC9 variants were listed among the 19 firearms banned by name in the USA by the now expired 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB).[1] This ban caused the cessation of their manufacture, and forced Intratec to introduce a newer model called the AB-10, a TEC-9 Mini without a threaded muzzle/barrel shroud and limited to a 10 round magazine instead of a 20 or 32 round magazine. However, it accepted the high capacity magazines of the pre-ban models."

[ms maggie]

What assault weapon was used at Columbine?

See slapshot's reply. I was responding to a poster re "so called" assault weapons that had been/will be banned. This gun is on that list. Not interested in a tedious discussion of what this one or that one thinks is an assault weapon. Context.

[Smokey 1]

See slapshot's reply. I was responding to a poster re "so called" assault weapons that had been/will be banned. This gun is on that list. Not interested in a tedious discussion of what this one or that one thinks is an assault weapon. Context.

Getting into that discussion was not my intent. I was just curious as to what that assault weapon was since I only knew that they used shotguns.

Thanks slapshot.

[slapshot]

Getting into that discussion was not my intent. I was just curious as to what that assault weapon was since I only knew that they used shotguns.

Thanks slapshot.

You are welcome.

By the way, are you a boater.....?

I can't wait to get back on the water. Few more months.

[Smokey 1]

You are welcome.

By the way, are you a boater.....?

I can't wait to get back on the water. Few more months.

Not any more but I used to be. I had a boat before I was married but I had to sell it when I bought my house. I really do miss it though. The irony was that I bought a house in a waterfront community that comes with a slip for next to nothing if you are a property owner.

[slapshot]

Not any more but I used to be. I had a boat before I was married but I had to sell it when I bought my house. I really do miss it though. The irony was that I bought a house in a waterfront community that comes with a slip for next to nothing if you are a property owner.

Man, just get anything. A Zodiac, a used Bayliner....it doesn't have to be expensive.

My happiest times are on the weekend, when my wife and I go out and anchor in some cove, read the newspaper (from one end to the other) and drink coffee and eat bagels. Pure relaxation!! Back by noon to cut the lawn and do other house hold stuff....

The Chesapeake is THE most valuable asset that Maryland has. Got to take advantage of it...,

[Mom49of4]

Growing up we used to go crabbing on the bay. It was a great family time.

[slapshot]

Growing up we used to go crabbing on the bay. It was a great family time.

From the time we moved here, to when they went off to college, almost every birthday party my kids had was on our boat swimming, tubing and wake boarding. Some great family memories on the boat....Now just me and the mrs...lot more relaxing and laid back.

Oh, and our Goldens (now down to one).

[Smokey 1]

Man, just get anything. A Zodiac, a used Bayliner....it doesn't have to be expensive.

My happiest times are on the weekend, when my wife and I go out and anchor in some cove, read the newspaper (from one end to the other) and drink coffee and eat bagels. Pure relaxation!! Back by noon to cut the lawn and do other house hold stuff....

The Chesapeake is THE most valuable asset that Maryland has. Got to take advantage of it...,

I know, you are right about that. I have been eying some kayaks.

[ms maggie]

I know, you are right about that. I have been eying some kayaks.

Kayaking is wonderful exercise as well! Me, I prefer sailing but being landlocked that's not on the agenda. Used to sail a lot with first husband (well he sailed, I relaxed), then kids came along and....oh well, that's a familar story. Good news is my oldest son is taking it up!

[slapshot]

I know, you are right about that. I have been eying some kayaks.

Ditto. And....it would also be a HEALTHIER outlet than power boating.

Anyway, good luck in getting back on the water.

[slapshot]

Kayaking is wonderful exercise as well! Me, I prefer sailing but being landlocked that's not on the agenda. Used to sail a lot with first husband (well he sailed, I relaxed), then kids came along and....oh well, that's a familar story. Good news is my oldest son is taking it up!

When we first moved to Maryland in the mid-80's, we lived in Montgomery County. That was too far from the water...so we never did any boating/water activities. Then we moved to Charlotte, NC and lived on Lake Norman. Boated every day. When we moved back to Maryland, we considered houses in Montgomery, Howard and Ann Arundel Counties....but I realized I would miss boating if I lived in Mont or Howard. So we now live on the Severn River, and that has been the best decision for our family. My kids grew up on the water, and loved it....

The Chesapeake is a state treasure.

[veritas]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-shootings-map

Since 1982 there have been 142 mass shooting incidents in the US.

A quarter of them involved assaut weapons.

And an assault weapon was used at Columbine.

I see, so 75% of them involved no assault weapon which means that not only is it very easy to carry out a mass shooting without one, it is actually the much preferred method. Therefore, the assault weapons ban is useless on its face. Why this doesn't penetrate the minds of those cheerleading for it, is indeed puzzling.

As for Columbine, the majority of the killing was done with handguns and sawed off shotguns.

[ms maggie]

I see, so 75% of them involved no assault weapon which means that not only is it very easy to carry out a mass shooting without one, it is actually the much preferred method. Therefore, the assault weapons ban is useless on its face. Why this doesn't penetrate the minds of those cheerleading for it, is indeed puzzling.

As for Columbine, the majority of the killing was done with handguns and sawed off shotguns.

Just once I would like to see someone say, oh guess I was wrong.

The Columbine killers used an assault weapon; perhaps the time to educate yourself on that incident was before pontificating on the subject.

[kudzu]

Just once I would like to see someone say, oh guess I was wrong.

Ok. You first.