More ridiculous examples from the proposed Gun Ban

[Grindelwald]

You've been batted around like a toy mouse. Nothing like getting your brains beaten in and then claiming victory. OMG, too damn funny.

Yeah, how does it feel? You would know better than I. One white flag is enough, veri, that's all I need, although I appreciate your adamant surrender.

[veritas]

Yeah, how does it feel? You would know better than I. One white flag is enough, veri, that's all I need, although I appreciate your adamant surrender.

How are you going to get those existing weapons? Waiting.............

[veritas]

How are you going to get those existing weapons? Waiting.............

Alas, he's run away.

[ms maggie]

I see, so now we're expanding the assault weapons definition from semi-automatic rifles to handguns. Yet, we're told that we're alarmist if we speak of a slippery slope. Indeed.

The AWB from the 90s also included semi-automatic rifles and handguns.

Isn't the idea of a slippery slope some kind of acceleration? If it was A and remains A, well I'm just not seeing it.

[veritas]

The AWB from the 90s also included semi-automatic rifles and handguns.

Isn't the idea of a slippery slope some kind of acceleration? If it was A and remains A, well I'm just not seeing it.

The first AWB didn't accomplish anything and neither will this one. We should be focusing on things like background checks, law enforcement and improving our ability to spot and detain unstable types, not splitting hairs about guns when millions are already out there.

[ms maggie]

How are you going to get those existing weapons? Waiting.............

Are you suggesting that not getting existing weapons is the reason you oppose the bill?

Because if it is, there are two ways to go: get them or don't get them. Not getting them allows the weapons in question to remain in use, but it does start limiting availability.

Getting ones in use, I would have to look at this worked re gold years ago as a model. Or what other countries have done. Think the current legislative proposal says that the guns in question would have to be registered to current owner, if not already.

[veritas]

Are you suggesting that not getting existing weapons is the reason you oppose the bill?

Because if it is, there are two ways to go: get them or don't get them. Not getting them allows the weapons in question to remain in use, but it does start limiting availability.

Getting ones in use, I would have to look at this worked re gold years ago as a model. Or what other countries have done. Think the current legislative proposal says that the guns in question would have to be registered to current owner, if not already.

My comment was in response to Grindlewald's assertion that an AWB would mean that hardly anyone had assault weapons. I asked him how he was going to accomplish that but he failed to answer. Also, the idea of either confiscation or registration of existing weapons is DOA.

[Grindelwald]

Alas, he's run away.

If by "run away" you meant "left for work" then yeah, I ran away. I know something like work might be unfamiliar to you.

[Jeebus]

Not getting them allows the weapons in question to remain in use, but it does start limiting availability.

Firearms (eg "assault weapons") are durable goods. They last a long time. They don't usually break, or wear out under use. The ones that are out there are not going to disappear. there will still be millions of them, in the hands of the public, for the next 100 years.

Getting ones in use, I would have to look at this worked re gold years ago as a model.

Not turning in your gold could have resulted in a prison sentence of 10 years in Federal prison. (Executive Order 6102)

Are you really suggesting that such a severe penalty apply to a law-abiding citizen who legally purchased his firearm, and has never used it illegally?

Seems that every LWNJ idea about "gun control" continues to present ideas that disarm those who follow the firearms laws, while doing nothing to punish those who violate them.

[Grindelwald]

Seems that every LWNJ idea about "gun control" continues to present ideas that disarm those who follow the firearms laws, while doing nothing to punish those who violate them.

Only when you put words in their mouth.

[ivanbalt]

The AWB from the 90s also included semi-automatic rifles and handguns.

Isn't the idea of a slippery slope some kind of acceleration? If it was A and remains A, well I'm just not seeing it.

The original AWB banned "handguns" like semi-auto versions of a Tech-9 and Mac-10. Guns like these are rarely used in crimes. A lot of the rifle bans were basically attachment bans. "Rifle X is legal unless it has a pistol grip and flash suppressor".

[Jeebus]

Smarmy Feinstein is using dead children to advance her stated agenda to eventually confiscate what she determines are "assault weapons" which account for a very small fraction of firearm deaths.

“Experience teaches us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent.”

The rantings of some right-wing Tea-Party militia member, right?

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

Ms. Maggie, given that you have already stated a desire to ban assault weapons, perhaps it would be helpful to ask what is the specific end result that you wish to achieve?

[RIKMAN]

Rather than adding just one more law on the books that Congress and the Prez can feel good about that will accomplish nothing...let's do this instead:

1> Get mental health services in the schools and communities that need it...now!
There are too many folks that need help that are not getting it. Eliminate the stigma of those needing these services ( some posters here would definitely benefit)!

2> Mandatory sentences for those committing any crime with a gun. Lock 'em up.

This will do more than any gun ban! You're welcome...just doing my part as the non-partisan, independent- thinking dude that I am!