More ridiculous examples from the proposed Gun Ban

[ms maggie]

How are suicides going to be lessened? Who kills themselves with an assault weapon? Also, why should the rights of one citizen be infringed based on the misuse of that right by another? That makes no sense at all.

How do you know that? I thought the whole point was that "assault weapon" is a made up category with no real defining characteristics?

[ms maggie]

Wrong. The legislation would not affect handguns. More evidence of your ignorance about the issue.

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Yes it does.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/publ...f-69e69f517fb4

[Daan]

[1994 AWB] was not proven useless.

Wrong.
Myth: The 1994 (former) Federal Assault Weapons Ban was effective
http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/...6_1_screen.pdf
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Fact: “We cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation’s recent drop in gun violence.”382
Fact: The ban covered only 1.39% of the models of firearms on the market, so the ban’s effectiveness was automatically limited.
Fact: “The ban has failed to reduce the average number of victims per gun murder incident or multiple gunshot wound victims.”383
Fact: “The public safety benefits of the 1994 ban have not yet been demonstrated.”384

382 An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003, National Institute of Justice, June 2004
383 Impacts of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban: 1994-96, National Institute of Justice, March 1999
384 Ibid

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[veritas]

How do you know that? I thought the whole point was that "assault weapon" is a made up category with no real defining characteristics?

Look, either it is nebulous and more and more weapons can fall under its definition or it is limited to semi-auto rifles. Which is it?

If it's the former, then we are giving the government unlimited power to add whatever weapons they see fit to the "assault weapons" category. If it's the latter, then your comments concerning suicides are as specious as I indicated.

[Daan]

Yes it does.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/publ...f-69e69f517fb4

ms maggie resorts to silly word games because she has nothing else.

The 2013 AWB would have no affect on suicide by handgun.

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[Daan]

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“Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic, purely symbolic move ... Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.”

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Charles Krauthammer, Syndicated Columnist, The Washington Post
April 5, 1996


And that is the bottom line, then and today.

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[veritas]

ms maggie resorts to silly word games because she has nothing else.

The 2013 AWB would have no affect on suicide by handgun.

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Using Maggie's logic and that of the other gun grabbers, we should ban matches because some guy once started a forest fire with them. That is the same logic being applied to the banning of certain semi-auto rifles.

[ms maggie]

ms maggie resorts to silly word games because she has nothing else.

The 2013 AWB would have no affect on suicide by handgun.

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But she has a damn good memory. You said the proposed law doesn't cover handguns and you are dead *** wrong. Words will bite you in the butt every time if you don't know what you're talking about.

[ms maggie]

Look, either it is nebulous and more and more weapons can fall under its definition or it is limited to semi-auto rifles. Which is it?

If it's the former, then we are giving the government unlimited power to add whatever weapons they see fit to the "assault weapons" category. If it's the latter, then your comments concerning suicides are as specious as I indicated.

Oh please. The bill specifically lists weapons and any new weapons would be reviewed as they are commercialized. It's done in the ethical drug and medical device business all the time. Are guns more difficult to understand than drugs?

[ms maggie]

Using Maggie's logic and that of the other gun grabbers, we should ban matches because some guy once started a forest fire with them. That is the same logic being applied to the banning of certain semi-auto rifles.

Matches have any uses beyond starting forest fires. What other use does a Bushmaster have, other than shooting people? Guess you could use it to prop open a door....

[Grindelwald]

Yes the entire link.

Do you comprehend what it is saying?

That the "gun ban" being proposed is ludicrous and does nothing to address how "deadly" a firearm is, only that it "looks scarier" than another version.

The FBI agent in the article is saying the exact same thing - that the ban is ridiculous.

Get your learn on

Nope you didn't read it.

[Daan]

But she has a damn good memory. You said the proposed law doesn't cover handguns and you are dead *** wrong. Words will bite you in the butt every time if you don't know what you're talking about.

Give it a rest. The legislation has no affect on handguns that will prevent suicide by handgun. Silly word games is all you have.

You are arguing firearms when you have proven to have practically no experience or knowledge about firearms.

You're on a "ban assault weapons" crusade that will not prevent suicide, mass killings, or criminal use of handguns.

But it makes you feel gooooood!

You may have a "damn good memory" but you have practically no knowledge of firearms.

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[Grindelwald]

But she has a damn good memory. You said the proposed law doesn't cover handguns and you are dead *** wrong. Words will bite you in the butt every time if you don't know what you're talking about.

Gun zealots will simply say anything that pops into their mind or force-fed to them by Faux News/Limbaugh no matter how many times they contradict themselves or ignore facts.

[Daan]

Oh please. The bill specifically lists weapons and any new weapons would be reviewed as they are commercialized. It's done in the ethical drug and medical device business all the time. Are guns more difficult to understand than drugs?

Really?

Where does it say that?

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[Daan]

Gun zealots will simply say anything that pops into their mind or force-fed to them by Faux News/Limbaugh no matter how many times they contradict themselves or ignore facts.

So says someone who posts links to material that he doesn't read.

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[ms maggie]

Really?

Where does it say that?

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You don't know that it bans handguns. clearly you haven't or can't read it.

[Grindelwald]

So says someone who posts links to material that he doesn't read.

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Such as...?

[Daan]

Matches have any uses beyond starting forest fires. What other use does a Bushmaster have, other than shooting people? Guess you could use it to prop open a door....

Camp Perry competition (and others)

Varmint extermination

More evidence that you don't know much about firearms.

[Daan]

You don't know that it bans handguns. clearly you haven't or can't read it.

Please respond to my question concerning the bold and underlined part of your post.

Good memory (maybe), comprehension (not so much).

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[Jeebus]

Explain why we have a rate of gun violence that dwarfs other industrialized nations. Then explain why we incarcerate at a higher rate than any other country on earth.

Your silly little quiz on arms minutia--a grasp of details is the bulwark of your position? Bravo. Talk about a little knowledge.

Is a Mini-14 with a folding stock and a pistol grip an "assault weapon"?

Is a Mini-14 without a folding stock or a pistol grip an "assault weapon"?

Explain why a .223 round is more deadly coming out of the muzzle of Example #1 and not Example #2.

Remember - #1 will be illegal under the current Congressional assault weapons ban proposal, while #2 will be legal...

Still waiting for our small-arms expert ms maggie to educate us all......