George Galloway Storms Out of Debate With Israeli Student at Oxford

[beeg jacques]

Apartheid with a smiley face.

Oh, so that's the excuse for the legislated dismal treatment of Palestinians who have lived in Arab countries for generations....

mass expulsions
denial of citizenship
massacres
confined to refugee camps
barred from jobs and government benefits
etc....

[zenwalk]

Oh, so that's the excuse for the legislated dismal treatment of Palestinians who have lived in Arab countries for generations....

mass expulsions
denial of citizenship
massacres
confined to refugee camps
barred from jobs and government benefits
etc....

Changing the subject. I don't blame you. I thought we were talking about Israel. Evidently you have a problem with that. Maybe you too are grabbing your coat and heading to the door?

[beeg jacques]

Changing the subject. I don't blame you. I thought we were talking about Israel. Evidently you have a problem with that. Maybe you too are grabbing your coat and heading to the door?

Can you share why addressing the disgraceful treatment of Palestinians Arabs by their own brethren bothers you so much?

Many hundreds of Palestinian refugees (why are they forced to be refugees after generations in Syria?) have been killed in the Syrian conflict.

[Cameron]

Poor Cam.

His "NAZI" anaolgy failed badly.

Maybe he can have better luck with his claim of an "apartheid government"

Benjamin Pogrund, prominent South African anti-apartheid activist

It is Galloway's position that Israel is an apartheid government.

It is Galloway's position that Israel is "de facto" (IN FACT) as opposed to "de jure" (BY LAW) an apartheid government.

[beeg jacques]

It is Galloway's position that Israel is an apartheid government.

It is Galloway's position that Israel is "de facto" (IN FACT) as opposed to "de jure" (BY LAW) an apartheid government.

Another position of Galloway's...this one on Syria:

(in a message to one of Assad's closest advisors)

Galloway describes Syria as "the last castle of Arab dignity" and asks her to "convey my respect and my admiration to His Excellency the President".

Keep up the cheerleading for George Galloway, Cam!

[Cameron]

Another position of Galloway's...this one on Syria:

(in a message to one of Assad's closest advisors)



Keep up the cheerleading for George Galloway, Cam!

Context is all:

The emails, dated 2010, relate to a request from Galloway for Syrian assistance with the Gaza flotilla.

You only posted the sucking up. That's how they do it over there.

[beeg jacques]

Context is all:



You only posted the sucking up. That's how they do it over there.

Oh, I didn't realize sucking up to a brutal dictator was cool, if done to score anti-Israel points.

My bad.

[Cameron]

Oh, I didn't realize sucking up to a brutal dictator was cool, if done to score anti-Israel points.

My bad.

Try to think of it as help for his anti-apartheid crusade against Israel, instead of "score anti-Israel points."

A bit harsh, don't you think?

[beeg jacques]

Try to think of it as help for his anti-apartheid crusade against Israel, instead of "score anti-Israel points."

A bit harsh, don't you think?

Galloway's "last castle of Arab dignity" is too busy falling to pieces to be a bulwark against Israel engulfing the entire Middle East.

Galloway will have better luck sucking up to Syria's puppet master, Iran.

[zenwalk]

Can you share why addressing the disgraceful treatment of Palestinians Arabs by their own brethren bothers you so much?

Other than being beside the point it doesn't bother me at all. The Israeli policy IS apartheid as evidenced by the the labyrinth of walls and the Arab bantustans it creates. The checkpoint system is a calculated system of harassment meant to undermine the native population. Only the demographics are against fortress Israel. The continual Israeli condescension to the obvious will be Israel's eventual undoing. I resent being dragged into this coming conflagration.

[Omaha Beach]

Good speech. Check out this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZbzfP7JIs

I'll give him a slight pass since it's Oreilly, but he sure does jump around with his opinions. He's like an extremist who's trying to pretend he isn't extreme. His North Korea comments didn't work out so well.

Typical leftist ahole always finding fault with the US, Great Britian and Israel while praising Saddam, Assad and the North Korean mental cases.

[beeg jacques]

Other than being beside the point it doesn't bother me at all. The Israeli policy IS apartheid as evidenced by the the labyrinth of walls and the Arab bantustans it creates. The checkpoint system is a calculated system of harassment meant to undermine the native population. Only the demographics are against fortress Israel. The continual Israeli condescension to the obvious will be Israel's eventual undoing. I resent being dragged into this coming conflagration.

Didn't your talking points tell you to include how the devious Zionists tricked the Palestinians into rejecting any negotiated peace agreements with or how the crafty Likudniks faked the stream of Palestinian Arab bombers seeking martyrdom via blowing up Jewish families eating pizza, old people at a holiday dinner, teens at a disco, commuter buses, etc., all so the Israelis could build a calculated system of harassment?

[zenwalk]

Your inability to see how the endless loop of violence is self-feeding should be an Israeli domestic issue, not something Americans should be drawn into. How other Arabs treat each other doesn't impact one whit on America. How our client state Israel treats them does. That's the obvious difference.

[Wizard777]

Was George Galloway a "complete clown" when he smoked the US Senate and ripped them a new one in 2005?

George Galloway is a very accomplished speaker and debator and is certainly not afraid of debating with any Israeli. He correctly, in my opinion, simply refuses to acknowledge 'Israels' legality in its current form and will not lend it any credence or legitimacy to it by entering into any debate on that matter and correctly describes it as an apartheid state.

He is not a man that can be bought or bullied, he willl not to be swayed by AIPAC or any other lobby and is not scared of being labelled an anti-Semite.

Watch the video link I've posted then, when you've finished wincing, come back and tell us all again that he is a "complete clown".

George is good. Especially when it comes to debating. But I think he screwed up on this one.

But I also have to ask, was Christ Church College being racist or segregationist by having George Galloway represent the Palestinian side instead of a Palestinian that could also use the word "we" instead of a Brit saying they?

If George was under the impression that this would be two Brits debating the Israeli Palestinian conflict. I agree that having an Israeli debate Brit drastically alters the milieu of the debate. But I don't think George handled that properly. When that guy said that he was an Israeli he handed George a nail. Instead of driving that nail he threw it away and walked out. George should have taken this position. How can anyone deny that Israel is an aparthied state when the seperation extends from Israel to Britian and right into this very room. I want to take notice that we have an Israeli representing Israel's side in this debate. But there is no Palestinian here to represent the Palestinian side. Instead they have me a Brit representing Palestine. Don't pretend you couldn't find a Palestinian. The Palestinian diaspora has about 15,000 - 20,000 Palestinians in Britian. So is the real problem here that you have accepted this aparthied and can't have a Palestinian in the same room with an Israeli? Maybe worse a Palestinian speaking authoritativly in the same room with an Israeli. Then at the end of the debate call a press conference to expose the segregated nature of this debate. But they set a trap and he stepped in it.

[ivanbalt]

I'm sure I'd say, "We."

BUT if I were an American student defending Bush's war, you could walk out on me without being anti-American.

You could be anti-war.

I don't follow these I/P threads much, but may I ask if you take a side?

Probably smart to avoid these threads, especially when certain characters show up. My position is Pro-Israel, yet I support a two-state solution. I don't support West Bank settlements either. Depending who you ask, I'm either a terrorist supporter or apartheid supporter.

[ivanbalt]

CTFU... Galloway toasted O'Reilly in that clip too. What sort of idiot would try to get Gallowy to answer a question yes or no?

Epic fail Ivan, if that's the best that you can conjure up...

I liked his speech to the Senate, but he wasn't too impressive on O'Reilly. Not because O'Reilly smoked him in a "debate", but because his views were all over the place.

[flyboy56]

Fact: The US supported the Taliban and foisted them on Afghanistan prior to 9/11. Should the US have done that? Yes or No?

Was that the question O'Reilly asked? No.

[beeg jacques]

Your inability to see how the endless loop of violence is self-feeding should be an Israeli domestic issue, not something Americans should be drawn into. How other Arabs treat each other doesn't impact one whit on America. How our client state Israel treats them does. That's the obvious difference.

That wasn't enough of an obvious difference to keep us out of Libya. Or Kuwait. Or Saudi Arabia....

[WKDWZD]

George is good. Especially when it comes to debating. But I think he screwed up on this one.

But I also have to ask, was Christ Church College being racist or segregationist by having George Galloway represent the Palestinian side instead of a Palestinian that could also use the word "we" instead of a Brit saying they?

If George was under the impression that this would be two Brits debating the Israeli Palestinian conflict. I agree that having an Israeli debate Brit drastically alters the milieu of the debate. But I don't think George handled that properly. When that guy said that he was an Israeli he handed George a nail. Instead of driving that nail he threw it away and walked out. George should have taken this position. How can anyone deny that Israel is an aparthied state when the seperation extends from Israel to Britian and right into this very room. I want to take notice that we have an Israeli representing Israel's side in this debate. But there is no Palestinian here to represent the Palestinian side. Instead they have me a Brit representing Palestine. Don't pretend you couldn't find a Palestinian. The Palestinian diaspora has about 15,000 - 20,000 Palestinians in Britian. So is the real problem here that you have accepted this aparthied and can't have a Palestinian in the same room with an Israeli? Maybe worse a Palestinian speaking authoritativly in the same room with an Israeli. Then at the end of the debate call a press conference to expose the segregated nature of this debate. But they set a trap and he stepped in it.

Excellent points Wiz, which I have to agree with in the most part.

I would comment further but as my posts on the the Israeli apartheid state are being deleted/censored I see no point in wasting my time contributing further to a one-sided debate.

[flyboy56]

George is good. Especially when it comes to debating. But I think he screwed up on this one.

But I also have to ask, was Christ Church College being racist or segregationist by having George Galloway represent the Palestinian side instead of a Palestinian that could also use the word "we" instead of a Brit saying they?

If George was under the impression that this would be two Brits debating the Israeli Palestinian conflict. I agree that having an Israeli debate Brit drastically alters the milieu of the debate. But I don't think George handled that properly. When that guy said that he was an Israeli he handed George a nail. Instead of driving that nail he threw it away and walked out. George should have taken this position. How can anyone deny that Israel is an aparthied state when the seperation extends from Israel to Britian and right into this very room. I want to take notice that we have an Israeli representing Israel's side in this debate. But there is no Palestinian here to represent the Palestinian side. Instead they have me a Brit representing Palestine. Don't pretend you couldn't find a Palestinian. The Palestinian diaspora has about 15,000 - 20,000 Palestinians in Britian. So is the real problem here that you have accepted this aparthied and can't have a Palestinian in the same room with an Israeli? Maybe worse a Palestinian speaking authoritativly in the same room with an Israeli. Then at the end of the debate call a press conference to expose the segregated nature of this debate. But they set a trap and he stepped in it.

He seemed hopped on something during his appearance with O'Reilly. He had to be told several times to settle down. O'Reilly was only asking questions concerning Where Galloway stood on certain issues. O'Reilly gave him 15 minutes to use the show as his own bully platform. Even when Galloway attempted to sucker O'Reilly into a debate, O'Reilly maintained his professionalism and stayed on topic.