Texas man, 21, fatally shoots intruder during home invasion

[Jeebus]

HOUSTON –A 21-year-old man sprang into action to protect his family Thursday night when three suspects barged into their northwest Harris County home.

The young man was home with his mother and father in the 3900 block of Brook Garden when the armed men forced their way into the house around 8 p.m., according to Harris County Sheriff’s deputies.

The family was in the middle of baking a cake, when there was a knock at the door. "I see a young boy and I think it is a friend of my son so I open it a little bit,” the father explained. “These guys push and out comes two more, they push me on the ground.”

After the father was down, the suspects went after the mother. That is when the son ran and got his dad’s gun. He opened fire and hit one of the suspects, who died in the back bedroom. The other two suspects fled the scene.

Perhaps they should have just dialed 911 and waited quietly in the closet for 10-12 minutes until the police showed up.

Or maybe the mom could have vomited or urinated on them when they went after her,

[slapshot]

"The young man was home with his mother and father in the 3900 block of Brook Garden when the armed men forced their way into the house around 8 p.m., according to Harris County Sheriff’s deputies.

The family was in the middle of baking a cake, when there was a knock at the door. "I see a young boy and I think it is a friend of my son so I open it a little bit,” the father explained. “These guys push and out comes two more, they push me on the ground.”

Deputies said they do not know why the suspects targeted this home.
“At this point, we don’t know what the motive is behind this home invasion, but they did force entry into the residence,” said Sgt. Greg Pinkins, Harris County Sheriff’s Office."



I know the motive....maybe they were walking through the neighborhood, smelled the cake that was in the oven, and decided they wanted some?

Or maybe the the 21 year old son sold them some bad weed and they were looking to kick his butt, or get their money back? Wanna bet that was the motive?

Odd that all these 3 young men...there was no return shots fired?

Let's see....They break into a suburban house at 8 pm, knowing people were home...and not prepared to fire one shot? Really? Very odd.

[Grindelwald]

There are going to be instances where people use guns correctly and for protection of themselves and their loved ones. There are times when people are going to use them for malevolent purposes. That's life. Now it seems this man legally owned a gun and did what he was supposed to do with it. Good for him. Not every gun owner is like that but plenty are. What exactly are you whining about Jeebie-King?

[TheResearcher]

http://www.khou.com/news/local/21-ye...192475271.html

"After the father was down, the suspects went after the mother. That is when the son ran and got his dad’s gun. He opened fire and hit one of the suspects, who died in the back bedroom. The other two suspects fled the scene.

“I just hear a couple of times; boom, boom, boom. One young life is lost,” the dad said."

[Up2DaRack]

"The young man was home with his mother and father in the 3900 block of Brook Garden when the armed men forced their way into the house around 8 p.m., according to Harris County Sheriff’s deputies.

The family was in the middle of baking a cake, when there was a knock at the door. "I see a young boy and I think it is a friend of my son so I open it a little bit,” the father explained. “These guys push and out comes two more, they push me on the ground.”

Deputies said they do not know why the suspects targeted this home.
“At this point, we don’t know what the motive is behind this home invasion, but they did force entry into the residence,” said Sgt. Greg Pinkins, Harris County Sheriff’s Office."



I know the motive....maybe they were walking through the neighborhood, smelled the cake that was in the oven, and decided they wanted some?

Or maybe the the 21 year old son sold them some bad weed and they were looking to kick his butt, or get their money back? Wanna bet that was the motive?

Odd that all these 3 young men...there was no return shots fired?

Let's see....They break into a suburban house at 8 pm, knowing people were home...and not prepared to fire one shot? Really? Very odd.

I'm not sure where you're heading with this.

As it is, police arrived long after the crisis, and are now sorting out what the motives to a killing might have been. Would it have been preferable that one of the family members died instead and then have the police sort through apparent motives?

If someone knocked you down in your house and went for your wife and kids, would you be inclined to find a way to defend your family first, or would you be so cerebral and ask, now I wonder what might be the motives of such folks FORCIBLY entering my home and threatening violence?

[slapshot]

I'm not sure where you're heading with this.

Just trying to help the police with a motive. There's always a motive....and they weren't after mom's cake....and at 8pm in a suburban neighborhood, they had to know people were inside....so what were they after? If they simply wanted to burglarize the place, do as most home robberies - come back in the morning when people are at work....85% of home robberies are done between 10AM-3Pm, when people are at work.

My hunch (just a hunch), they went to the house when they knew this 21 year old was at home....for something he owed or did to them. After watching all these detective shows....that's my hypothesis as to a motive.

As it is, police arrived long after the crisis, and are now sorting out what the motives to a killing might have been.

Really? Long after? Was that in the news report....cuz, I don't rembered the "long after" part.

They caught some of the perps driving away....

Would it have been preferable that one of the family members died instead and then have the police sort through apparent motives?

Absolutely not. But bet, after things are sorted out, that 21 year old son brought this on his family....wanna make a side wager?

If someone knocked you down in your house and went for your wife and kids, would you be inclined to find a way to defend your family first, or would you be so cerebral and ask, now I wonder what might be the motives of such folks FORCIBLY entering my home and threatening violence?

Yes, I would take the time to ask myself, why are they in my house? Stupid question deserves a stupid answer.

[Jeebus]

Absolutely not. But bet, after things are sorted out, that 21 year old son brought this on his family....wanna make a side wager?

Might be uncommon here, but the "home invasion" robbery method is happening a lot in Houston, despite your far-fetched scenario above.

All of these events happened in Houston in the last 6 months.

Man shot, killed in possible home invasion in Cypress

Neighbor killed, homeowner wounded during home invasion in Alvin

Deputies: Couple tied up in home, husband killed

Houston homeowner shoots, kills home invasion suspect

Reward offered in fatal home invasion case

Homeowner fatally shot in violent home invasion in Acres Homes

1 killed, 1 injured in SW Houston home invasion

I guess they all should have patiently waited for the police to arrive to save them.

[grggngll]

Might be uncommon here, but the "home invasion" robbery method is happening a lot in Houston, despite your far-fetched scenario above.

All of these events happened in Houston in the last 6 months.

Man shot, killed in possible home invasion in Cypress

Neighbor killed, homeowner wounded during home invasion in Alvin

Deputies: Couple tied up in home, husband killed

Houston homeowner shoots, kills home invasion suspect

Reward offered in fatal home invasion case

Homeowner fatally shot in violent home invasion in Acres Homes

1 killed, 1 injured in SW Houston home invasion

I guess they all should have patiently waited for the police to arrive to save them.

Why are you forgetting to mention the latest friendly suggestions from your busy body 'friends' at the government: barf and pee!

[slapshot]

Might be uncommon here, but the "home invasion" robbery method is happening a lot in Houston, despite your far-fetched scenario above.

Far fetched scenario? So why did they invade the home? For mom's cake? LMAO.

Although pretty damned weird that all these events are happening in a city, a state known for it's gun ownership. Sometimes the homeowner was lucky, and got the bad guy, and sometimes they weren't so lucky, and were killed. So how does this happen if everyone is armed? It's not like this is a "gun free zone"

So, what I take away from all your examples, in one city, over 6 months is - avoid Houston like the plague.

[Jeebus]

So, what I take away from all your examples, in one city, over 6 months is - avoid Houston like the plague.

And for the citizens who live there --- what is your recommendation as to how they should protect themselves from the home invasion robber?

Urine?

Vomit?

Run away and hide?

What should they do when they bash down the door? Call 911 and wait 11-14 minutes for the police?

[slapshot]

And for the citizens who live there --- what is your recommendation as to how they should protect themselves from the home invasion robber?

Seriously? Lots of possibilities:

I'd start by looking for a better neighborhood.

I'd keep my doors closed and locked (reinforced, if i was really concerned). including the garage door.

Next, I'd get a guard dog.

I'd buy an alarm.

Better dead bolts on the doors.

Buy a taser.

Buy some mace. [Ever been maced? I have. You can't see, or do jack for minutes....]

Maybe all of the aforementioned.

Oh, and for some of these cases....don't traffic in drugs or hang out with criminal elements that may suspect you have money and/or drugs....it's inevitable that they will come to take it from you. Most home break ins and burglaries are committed by someone who had been in the house before...

What should they do when they bash down the door? Call 911 and wait 11-14 minutes for the police?

As per several of your examples....if they ring the doorbell, and you let them in....or, they bash down the door while your on the hopper, or they walk in through an open garage door and surprise you any your's while you're eating dinner....there's little you can do. They have the element of surprise. Game over. As per your initial example, when these 3 men barged in and pushed the father to the ground....they could have killed him right then and there, before the son had a chance to get his dad's rifle....but, as I said, I suspect they were after the 21 year old son in some deal gone bad.

Now, if I am in my bedroom at night, and they break the door in, or slip in a window....my alarm goes off, calls the police, and I simply close and lock the door to my bedroom and wait for the police to arrive. But chances are, once they hear the alarm blaring at 130 dBc....they leave immediately.

It worked for them:

http://chestnuthill.patch.com/articl...es-in-basement
http://www.walb.com/story/20703002/g...uring-break-in



Anything else you want to know?

[pepper]

"The young man was home with his mother and father in the 3900 block of Brook Garden when the armed men forced their way into the house around 8 p.m., according to Harris County Sheriff’s deputies.

The family was in the middle of baking a cake, when there was a knock at the door. "I see a young boy and I think it is a friend of my son so I open it a little bit,” the father explained. “These guys push and out comes two more, they push me on the ground.”

Deputies said they do not know why the suspects targeted this home.
“At this point, we don’t know what the motive is behind this home invasion, but they did force entry into the residence,” said Sgt. Greg Pinkins, Harris County Sheriff’s Office."



I know the motive....maybe they were walking through the neighborhood, smelled the cake that was in the oven, and decided they wanted some?

Or maybe the the 21 year old son sold them some bad weed and they were looking to kick his butt, or get their money back? Wanna bet that was the motive?

Odd that all these 3 young men...there was no return shots fired?

Let's see....They break into a suburban house at 8 pm, knowing people were home...and not prepared to fire one shot? Really? Very odd.

I get what you're saying, and don't discount the idea that the kid was involved with bad guys. Thats very possible. I also realize that some folks might take that angle to dilute the story so it makes the idea of a gun for home protection seem sketchy when it's actually used. Theres always a catch, right?

Consider though, you and I think it's odd, but thats because we actually think. The type of person that would break into an occupied home do not think, but are really the some of the stupidest among us. And they do massively stupid things like that all the time. Stupid crimminals are a constant, so I wouldn't focus too much on their actions as "odd".

I think it's "odd" that anyone would do most of the things we see thugs and losers do. But they do it, over and over...

[slapshot]

I get what you're saying, and don't discount the idea that the kid was involved with bad guys. Thats very possible. I also realize that some folks might take that angle to dilute the story so it makes the idea of a gun for home protection seem sketchy when it's actually used. Theres always a catch, right?

Consider though, you and I think it's odd, but thats because we actually think. The type of person that would break into an occupied home do not think, but are really the some of the stupidest among us. And they do massively stupid things like that all the time. Stupid crimminals are a constant, so I wouldn't focus too much on their actions as "odd".

I think it's "odd" that anyone would do most of the things we see thugs and losers do. But they do it, over and over...

I still believe that most thugs, criminals do what they do with some motive in mind. You and I might think the motive makes no sense, but most crimes have a reason behind why they were committed. Wouldn't you agree? Or do you believe this was some random, spur of the moment act? I don't, and I'm sure the police don't either?

So, starting with the premise that there must be a motive....I ask what might that motive be? I have my theory....stay tuned. This is Texas....the land of guns....so why would they invade a home in prime time, with people home, and where there's likely to be a gun....if they simply wanted to steal some cash and jewels?? Wait until everyone was at work. My hunch is they were after the 21 year old.

[pepper]

I still believe that most thugs, criminals do what they do with some motive in mind. You and I might think the motive makes no sense, but most crimes have a reason behind why they were committed. Wouldn't you agree? Or do you believe this was some random, spur of the moment act? I don't, and I'm sure the police don't either?

So, starting with the premise that there must be a motive....I ask what might that motive be? I have my theory....stay tuned. This is Texas....the land of guns....so why would they invade a home in prime time, with people home, and where there's likely to be a gun....if they simply wanted to steal some cash and jewels?? Wait until everyone was at work. My hunch is they were after the 21 year old.

If you're correct, that will easily be established, if it already hasn't. If I were an investigator, I would certainly look into that..

[slapshot]

If you're correct, that will easily be established, if it already hasn't. If I were an investigator, I would certainly look into that..

My wife and I love a good mystery...

I'm more about the why the crime was committed, than how it was committed. Why did they invade that house?

[Gopher]

Forcing entry into an occupied dwelling is a risky endeavor. Unfortunately, the one who got smoked had to learn that lesson the hard way. Fortunately, he won’t be doing it again. Maybe his two friends can gain something from his experience and spend more time engaging in lawful activities that generally don’t end up causing one to be shot to death.

[slapshot]

Forcing entry into an occupied dwelling is a risky endeavor. Unfortunately, the one who got smoked had to learn that lesson the hard way. Fortunately, he won’t be doing it again. Maybe his two friends can gain something from his experience and spend more time engaging in lawful activities that generally don’t end up causing one to be shot to death.

As Pepper said, and I agree....this element is not too smart, so don't count on his two friends learning anything?

IMO, a home invasion, in prime time, with people home and guns in the house (most in Texas own guns), falls into one of two categories:

(1) Incredible stupidity (which I don't discount)

OR

(2) They were after a particular person in the house.

....otherwise, come back when nobody is home. Not rocket science.

[bmorepunk]

HOUSTON –A 21-year-old man sprang into action to protect his family Thursday night when three suspects barged into their northwest Harris County home.



Perhaps they should have just dialed 911 and waited quietly in the closet for 10-12 minutes until the police showed up.

Or maybe the mom could have vomited or urinated on them when they went after her,

I commend you on your original thread.

[slapshot]

I commend you on your original thread.

Now that made me laugh.

[markh]

"The young man was home with his mother and father in the 3900 block of Brook Garden when the armed men forced their way into the house around 8 p.m., according to Harris County Sheriff’s deputies.

The family was in the middle of baking a cake, when there was a knock at the door. "I see a young boy and I think it is a friend of my son so I open it a little bit,” the father explained. “These guys push and out comes two more, they push me on the ground.”

Deputies said they do not know why the suspects targeted this home.
“At this point, we don’t know what the motive is behind this home invasion, but they did force entry into the residence,” said Sgt. Greg Pinkins, Harris County Sheriff’s Office.

I know the motive....maybe they were walking through the neighborhood, smelled the cake that was in the oven, and decided they wanted some?

Or maybe the the 21 year old son sold them some bad weed and they were looking to kick his butt, or get their money back? Wanna bet that was the motive?

Odd that all these 3 young men...there was no return shots fired?

Let's see....They break into a suburban house at 8 pm, knowing people were home...and not prepared to fire one shot? Really? Very odd.

You are probably one of those types that figure rape victims have it coming to them, don't you? WOW! Blame the victim? It's too bad all the thugs didn't get killed.