KKK.......High School Hockey Game?

[Grindelwald]

You change the direction of the thread. veritas does not.

Veritas has not addressed the thread at all. He's been playing deflect this whole time. You're not that blind are you?

[veritas]

So what is your issue with this? Nobody has violated freedom of expression. Again, the school has regulations they have to follow. Kids dressing up in KKK is a clear violation. END OF STORY. Why can't you grasp that?

I can grasp it. This was one case. My point is the lopsided way in which these things are handled. As I said, some groups get more protection from offense than others. If we now have a society where people have a right against being offended, then let's apply it across the board in all cases. Impossible you say? Of course, which is why the whole idea is bankrupt.

[Grindelwald]

I don't think you made your points as clear as you'd like to think.

Just because Bmore and I want to discuss the topic does not mean you can insert your drivel in here.

I can grasp it. This was one case. My point is the lopsided way in which these things are handled. As I said, some groups get more protection from offense than others. If we now have a society where people have a right against being offended, then let's apply it across the board in all cases. Impossible you say? Of course, which is why the whole idea is bankrupt.

Extremely vague. What should have been done?

[veritas]

Veritas has not addressed the thread at all. He's been playing deflect this whole time. You're not that blind are you?

I was addressing it from the get go. If you can't understand the points being made, that's your problem.

[Grindelwald]

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...64&postcount=8

First post in the thread from you. You're wondering what rules the kids broke. Probably a dress code or an inappropriate attire rule, would you say? Or do you think differently?

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...4&postcount=29

Another blatant lie and deflection.

[veritas]

Just because Bmore and I want to discuss the topic does not mean you can insert your drivel in here.Extremely vague. What should have been done?

The question is not what should have been done but whether similar actions are taken when others are offended. We know minorities and women get quick action. How about conservatives, Christians and white males? Why can they be offended with impunity? That's the point. We either treat everyone's perceived offense equally or we scrap the whole thing. I prefer the latter.

[SoSad]

Please get back on topic rather than hypocritically placing the blame. You claim that I personally attacked on page 2 yet completely ignore Veritas' childish comments and attempts at twisting what I had said about people feeling terrified.

I replied to the post you made regarding "a terrorist." That was a bit of a puzzle to me, so I inquired.

I don't take issue with your statement that people may have felt terrified.

[Bmoreteacher]

The question is not what should have been done but whether similar actions are taken when others are offended. We know minorities and women get quick action. How about conservatives, Christians and white males? Why can they be offended with impunity? That's the point. We either treat everyone's perceived offense equally or we scrap the whole thing. I prefer the latter.

But you're still ignoring the difference between being offended and being terrified. Dressing like the KKK conjures up a terribly violent history. Had these kids shown up in black face, then maybe we could talk about being offended.

[veritas]

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...64&postcount=8

First post in the thread from you. You're wondering what rules the kids broke. Probably a dress code or an inappropriate attire rule, would you say? Or do you think differently?

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...4&postcount=29

Another blatant lie and deflection.

The clear implication made by teacher is that someone would be terrifed of these kids because of their garb. That they would be equated with the KKK, a terrorist organization. He said it and I merely pointed it out. How the hell is that a lie? Please, your head is barely above water now, stop the flailing.

[Bmoreteacher]

The clear implication made by teacher is that someone would be terrifed of these kids because of their garb. That they would be equated with the KKK, a terrorist organization. He said it and I merely pointed it out. How the hell is that a lie? Please, your head is barely above water now, stop the flailing.

This is exactly what you said:

So you think people at the hockey game were fearful that a KKK rally was going to break out? Please, this is too absurd.

which was not at all what I had said. You clearly had twisted my point to try and make me look absurd. The fact of the matter is that yes, people could feel terror upon seeing someone dressed in the KKK. No need to try and blow that up into "So now they think there is going to be a KKK rally."

How about responding to a post without nonsense such as this:

Please, your head is barely above water now, stop the flailing.

[Grindelwald]

The question is not what should have been done but whether similar actions are taken when others are offended. We know minorities and women get quick action. How about conservatives, Christians and white males? Why can they be offended with impunity? That's the point. We either treat everyone's perceived offense equally or we scrap the whole thing. I prefer the latt

Keep deflecting. This thread is about, and has always been about, three kids dressed up as KKKers at a high school hockey game and their punishment by the school administration. Yet for some reason, you want to talk about Stalin, Hitler, Mother Teresa, and everything else under the sun that may be considered what you think is "offensive." Give me a flippin' break.

[veritas]

But you're still ignoring the difference between being offended and being terrified. Dressing like the KKK conjures up a terribly violent history. Had these kids shown up in black face, then maybe we could talk about being offended.

For the umpteenth time, who was terrified? Please name one person at this game terrified by these kids. Or is simply the remote possibility that someone could be terrified enough to discipline them? Is that what we've come to? Discipline based on maybes and could haves?

[SoSad]

what do you take issue with?

Here is the post:

To get a Liberals (who suffer epileptic seizures whenever one of their Sacred Cows gets racially offended, but who could care less when their 'Official Victims' racially offend victims of their own), to say, "And your point in posting this is...?"

Making the statement "Liberals who suffer epileptics seizures whenever..." is what I found to be in poor taste. The part I have specifically quoted is what I am taking issue with. What's wrong with a liberal just being a liberal and why compare them with a disorder?

[Grindelwald]

The clear implication made by teacher is that someone would be terrifed of these kids because of their garb. That they would be equated with the KKK, a terrorist organization. He said it and I merely pointed it out. How the hell is that a lie? Please, your head is barely above water now, stop the flailing

You've already drowned. The KKK is absolutely a terrorist org. Do you have inside info that nobody was scared of this? Didn't think so. Moving on.

[veritas]

Keep deflecting. This thread is about, and has always been about, three kids dressed up as KKKers at a high school hockey game and their punishment by the school administration. Yet for some reason, you want to talk about Stalin, Hitler, Mother Teresa, and everything else under the sun that may be considered what you think is "offensive." Give me a flippin' break.

The thread is posted for people to offer opinions. If you don't like the ones offered or can't address them in any cogent manner, then I suggest you move on.

[SoSad]

Just because Bmore and I want to discuss the topic does not mean you can insert your drivel in here

Nor should you, right?

[Bmoreteacher]

For the umpteenth time, who was terrified? Please name one person at this game terrified by these kids. Or is simply the remote possibility that someone could be terrified enough to discipline them? Is that what we've come to? Discipline based on maybes and could haves?

What part of "people COULD have been terrified" do you not grasp? I didn't say people were, yet you've asked me multiple times who was. COULD does not mean that they WERE.

You're also continuing to ignore that these students may have violated the school's policy, and therefore the school had every reason to discipline them. Dressing up in racist, terroristic costumes isn't exactly freedom of expression. Even if we took our the KKK and a student wore a shirt that said ni99er, the school would have had the right to discipline the students.

[Grindelwald]

This is exactly what you said:
which was not at all what I had said. You clearly had twisted my point to try and make me look absurd. The fact of the matter is that yes, people could feel terror upon seeing someone dressed in the KKK. No need to try and blow that up into "So now they think there is going to be a KKK rally."

How about responding to a post without nonsense such as this:

Let him throw his temper tantrums. His mother will be ready with the binky soon enough.

[veritas]

You've already drowned. The KKK is absolutely a terrorist org. Do you have inside info that nobody was scared of this? Didn't think so. Moving on.

So, we now discipline based on what MIGHT happen, no evidence required. The mere possibility makes you guilty. Yea, you leftists are great.

[Grindelwald]

What part of "people COULD have been terrified" do you not grasp? I didn't say people were, yet you've asked me multiple times who was. COULD does not mean that they WERE.

You're also continuing to ignore that these students may have violated the school's policy, and therefore the school had every reason to discipline them. Dressing up in racist, terroristic costumes isn't exactly freedom of expression. Even if we took our the KKK and a student wore a shirt that said ni99er, the school would have had the right to discipline the students.

That's really all there is to it. There is nothing more to this story than that.

So, we now discipline based on what MIGHT happen, no evidence required. The mere possibility makes you guilty. Yea, you leftists are great.

For the 423432nd time, the school has a policy for offensive attire. If you do not see this as offensive than you are a fool.