No smoking at Orioles/Ravens stadia

[Fang]

I wonder how much this has to do with the stadium not wanting to pay people to clean up cigarette butts.

That's the million dollar question. Why do smokers throw their butts on the ground? Can I stand outside with my big mac and fries and throw the wrappers on the ground?

[Smokey 1]

Tell that to the DEA and the FDA... (not that I agree with them).

They can think what they want but the only way the government has legal standing to restrict what you do with your body is if the government owns it. The government might own your body but they sure don't own mine and I will do with it what I will regardless of what those a holes think.

[Wizard777]

I doubt that many colleges do it anymore, but many used to ban alcohol being sold at football games.

I forgot how people do in fact urinate in restroom sinks. So much for telling your kids to wash their hands before leaving the bathroom.

Actually the next thing to go from the stadiums might actually be alcohol. Because they just painted a huge target on their arses. To the best of my knowledge no one has ever sued the studiums for exposure to second hand smoke. But they have been sued because someone drinking there drove and killed a loved one. I can hear the liability attorney's now.

They will not allow smoking in the stadiums. It's too dangerous. They can't trust smokers to be responsible. But the can trust drunks to be responsible even though they know drinking alcohol impares your judgement. You can smoke a pack or even a carton of cigarettes and still operate your vehicel safely. But with alcohol some people can be DUI on their third beer. Other's will be DUI by their fourth beer. Pretty much everyone will be DUI by their sixth beer. The stadium will only allow you buy two beers at a time. But you can drink them and go buy two more. If your a little tipsy you can send your buddy to buy two more. So while my client was at the stadium they protected him from second hand smoke that with continued exposure over 10, 20, 40 or 60 years might give him cancer. But they willingly and knowingly sold him alcohol that could and DID KILL HIM a 1/2 hour after leaving the stadium. They failed to protect him from alcohol and he died because of it. I rest my case.

[Smokey 1]

That's the million dollar question. Why do smokers throw their butts on the ground? Can I stand outside with my big mac and fries and throw the wrappers on the ground?

Maybe there is no butt receptable provided in the smoking areas.

There was a boss at a place where I used to work who dictated that the butt buckets out in the designated smoking areas be removed because he believed they encouraged people to smoke.

[Wizard777]

They can think what they want but the only way the government has legal standing to restrict what you do with your body is if the government owns it. The government might own your body but they sure don't own mine and I will do with it what I will regardless of what those a holes think.

The US Constitution does give the government the ability to provide for the general welfare. But where health is concerned I don't know of anything that would give them the power to compell health by law. Thank God you USDA's reccomended diet was only reccomended and not compelled by law. Doctors now call that diet a prescription for death. Then there was that wonderful piece of health advice called Reefer Madness. I don't even complettely trust my doctor with my health. Why would I trust my health to a bunch of whores that would sell any one of us into an early grave for campaign contributions or a lucrative job after they leave office? You're making a billion dollar donation to my Super PAC. Of course you can market cynide pills as a permanent cure for insomnia in low income areas. If you take one of those and you will sleep forever. HA HA! My kids can hardly wait to get in on all that low income abandoned property.

[BiggSeth]

It's gonna cost them more than that. I won't be renewing my skyboxes in either stadium. It'll devistate the GC's. But it's a matter of principle so they'll understand. I'm quiting the clubs. Only my money is welcome there. Not me. This goes far beyond health concerns. This is pure hate and prejudice. Whites only has become nonsmokers only. That makes bigotry soooooo much better. Uh huh.......

So what's next? The Bloomberg offensive. No nacho's for you fat arse! You have to leave the stadium, do two laps around it and THEN they'll sell you a vegitable platter out there. Oh quit your whining! It's for you own good. If you don't lose weight Eskimos will hunt you for your blubber. This is America where you are only free to be one of the Beautiful People. All others will be persecuted.

If I were a woman I would have an undeniable Constitutional right enshrined in law to make decisions about and exercize control over my vagina. No one would have the right to discriminate against me based on those decisions I have made. I wish I had a right to make decisions about and exercize control over my body and no one could discriminate against me based on the decisions I have made about MY BODY.

so if you were a woman, would you smoke with your vagina?

[queenie]

so if you were a woman, would you smoke with your vagina?

oh dear.....

[Fang]

Maybe there is no butt receptable provided in the smoking areas.

There was a boss at a place where I used to work who dictated that the butt buckets out in the designated smoking areas be removed because he believed they encouraged people to smoke.

So if I'm in a public park and no trash can is available I should throw my trash on the ground?

[Smokey 1]

So if I'm in a public park and no trash can is available I should throw my trash on the ground?

I didn't say that if there was no butt receptacles that it was OK to throw them on the ground. My point was that if there were such a receptacle then maybe there wouldn't be butts on the ground. Common sense should tell you to put those in designated smoking areas.

[Fang]

I didn't say that if there was no butt receptacles that it was OK to throw them on the ground. My point was that if there were such a receptacle then maybe there wouldn't be butts on the ground. Common sense should tell you to put those in designated smoking areas.

I agree. But if they aren't there then the smokers themselves need to figure it out instead of littering.

[Wizard777]

so if you were a woman, would you smoke with your vagina?

For the purposefully obtuse, one stupid answer coming right up!

Back in the late 70's I saw some films....... Well, lets just say you would be amazed at what they can do with that thing. I still think the smoke rings were a bit too much.

[jessup270]

Speaking of filthy litter left behind by smokers, why has no law been passed to demand that cigarette filters be biodegradable?

This one sensible matter that the mayor of NYC should take on, to get the ball rolling across the country.

[prepfan]

Has there been any enforcement action against a bar or other entity for a smoking ban violation ?

[Sprightly]

oh dear.....

Don't laugh. I saw that one time at a strip club on Baltimore St. (Back when smoking was permitted.) I'm serious.

[queenie]

Don't laugh. I saw that one time at a strip club on Baltimore St. (Back when smoking was permitted.) I'm serious.

I think I saw that show as well....it was at the 2 o'clock and I believe her name was "Bubbles" or something like that

[Sprightly]

I think I saw that show as well....it was at the 2 o'clock and I believe her name was "Bubbles" or something like that

Most likely the 2 O'Clock Club. A friend of mine worked there. She was the flail, whips and chains girl.

[Rintrah]

So when are "they" going to ban the gasoline engine cars to stop all the carbon monoxide in the areas near large crowds ?

When people complain about the stench that these cars leave on them.

[Rintrah]

That's not true at all. When I go to M&T where I go to smoke is outside in the open air. But it's outside in the open air inside the stadium where I feel included. It's not outside in the open air outside the stadium where I will feel like a banished and exiled outsider.

So I stand there on the concourse at the rail smoking my cigarette in the open air looking outward from the stadium to a stadium parking lot. To the left is the Ravens Marching Band warming up. To the right of them is a bunch of tailgaters. In front of the Tailgaters is a line of men pissing through a fence. Indecent exposure and public urination is not a problem at all. Smoking outside in the open air, HUGE PROBLEM! I guess it's best to get those smokers away from the rail so kids can stand there and watch the men pee. Apparently the Stadium Authority doesn't care if your child see's a mans penis as long as they don't see his cigarettes. So the stadium Authority is obviously far more concerned with where people smoke than where they urinate.

Uhhhh, peeing through the fence is illegal.

[Wizard777]

When people complain about the stench that these cars leave on them.

I see. So nonsmokers don't bathe or do laundry. Well they have bigger problems than people smoking in the open air. Do the nonsmokers clean someone clock for getting smoke on them? There is always that guy that jumps up cheering and spills his beer on everyone around him. Then comes the fight. So apparently the stadium authority doesn't care what you smell like or how many fights that causes.

No officer, I haven't been drinking. Yes I do smell like a brewery. It's because the guy behind me at the stadium spilled his beer all over me. What do you mean step out of the vehicle? I have not been drinking! I AM NOT GETTING BELIGERANT!

Uhhhh, peeing through the fence is illegal.

And smoking in the open air is not.