No smoking at Orioles/Ravens stadia

[Smokey 1]

If cigarette buds start showing up on the ground in the new designated outdoor areas, than ALL smoking on stadium property should be banned completely.

And I suppose they shouldn't be given a butt receptable either because that would "encourage people to smoke".

[Pickle20]

When they banned smoking indoors I said they wouldn't be happy with smokers outdoors either and would eventually ban that too. Everyone said no they just wanted the smokers outdoors and they would be satisfied with that. I see I was right again. This won't stop until the only place left to smoke is inside your own house and they will probably try to go after that too eventually.

Not really. But if it does I will fight along side you in the next Civil Tar, I mean War.

You can still light up pretty much anywhere you want, outside. Just so long as you're not around large crowds.

I've changed my tune somewhat about smoking laws, and I obviously don't want the government deciding what I can and can't do. However, as a non-smoker (outside of the rare cigar after a big Ravens or Orioles win) no cigarette smoke makes everything more pleasant, whether I am at a game or on the beach.

If all smokers had manners, and refrained from smoking around other non-smokers, as well as the ability to go without a cigarette every 20 mins, there wouldn't need to be laws about smoking.

[Wizard777]

your logic has no place here. Cigarettes = bad.

revenues lost from cigarette taxes not being collected due to limitations on smoking = unintended consequence of librat social enginering. ( and more than likely Bush's fault in the minds of the obamabots)

that being said, it seems most professional ballparks and stadiums are already in-lockstep on their persecution of the tobacco user.

(I am not a smoker, never were, but to each his own...)

It's gonna cost them more than that. I won't be renewing my skyboxes in either stadium. It'll devistate the GC's. But it's a matter of principle so they'll understand. I'm quiting the clubs. Only my money is welcome there. Not me. This goes far beyond health concerns. This is pure hate and prejudice. Whites only has become nonsmokers only. That makes bigotry soooooo much better. Uh huh.......

So what's next? The Bloomberg offensive. No nacho's for you fat arse! You have to leave the stadium, do two laps around it and THEN they'll sell you a vegitable platter out there. Oh quit your whining! It's for you own good. If you don't lose weight Eskimos will hunt you for your blubber. This is America where you are only free to be one of the Beautiful People. All others will be persecuted.

If I were a woman I would have an undeniable Constitutional right enshrined in law to make decisions about and exercize control over my vagina. No one would have the right to discriminate against me based on those decisions I have made. I wish I had a right to make decisions about and exercize control over my body and no one could discriminate against me based on the decisions I have made about MY BODY.

[queenie]

No on one is telling people that they cannot smoke only where they can smoke....and seriously u want to compare smoking to having control over a woman's vagina.....thanks for THAT laugh of the day!!!

[Sprightly]

No on one is telling people that they cannot smoke only where they can smoke....and seriously u want to compare smoking to having control over a woman's vagina.....thanks for THAT laugh of the day!!!

That's Wizard for you.

[ybnormal]

One more right taken away. Now if they can just ban the drunks - no more loud cussing, no pizzing in the stands and bathroom sinks, no more fights, etc. that many also find disgusting and offensive.

[Rintrah]

It's gonna cost them more than that. I won't be renewing my skyboxes in either stadium. It'll devistate the GC's. But it's a matter of principle so they'll understand. I'm quiting the clubs. Only my money is welcome there. Not me. This goes far beyond health concerns. This is pure hate and prejudice. Whites only has become nonsmokers only. That makes bigotry soooooo much better. Uh huh.......

So what's next? The Bloomberg offensive. No nacho's for you fat arse! You have to leave the stadium, do two laps around it and THEN they'll sell you a vegitable platter out there. Oh quit your whining! It's for you own good. If you don't lose weight Eskimos will hunt you for your blubber. This is America where you are only free to be one of the Beautiful People. All others will be persecuted.

If I were a woman I would have an undeniable Constitutional right enshrined in law to make decisions about and exercize control over my vagina. No one would have the right to discriminate against me based on those decisions I have made. I wish I had a right to make decisions about and exercize control over my body and no one could discriminate against me based on the decisions I have made about MY BODY.

Faulty arguments. The stadium is not saying smokers cannot attend games. And the rule does not say you cannot do what you want with yourown body. You just can't force others to share in those things. For example, the stadium does not prevent people who urinate and deficate from attending games. But they will kick you out if you do those things in places other than the desginated areas. Think of it like this. If I have to walk by an entrance where people are spraying beer on one another, do you think that's fair? Don't you think they should have to move to an area where no one has to be subject to carrying the stench of the beer on their clothes and in their hair?

[prepfan]

Faulty arguments. The stadium is not saying smokers cannot attend games. And the rule does not say you cannot do what you want with yourown body. You just can't force others to share in those things. For example, the stadium does not prevent people who urinate and deficate from attending games. But they will kick you out if you do those things in places other than the desginated areas. Think of it like this. If I have to walk by an entrance where people are spraying beer on one another, do you think that's fair? Don't you think they should have to move to an area where no one has to be subject to carrying the stench of the beer on their clothes and in their hair?

So when are "they" going to ban the gasoline engine cars to stop all the carbon monoxide in the areas near large crowds ?

[queenie]

So when are "they" going to ban the gasoline engine cars to stop all the carbon monoxide in the areas near large crowds ?

Carbon monoxide (CO) is a colorless, odorless, and tasteless gas....why would that be banned in areas near large crowds.....NASCAR wouldn't be very happy

[Wizard777]

Faulty arguments. The stadium is not saying smokers cannot attend games. And the rule does not say you cannot do what you want with yourown body. You just can't force others to share in those things. For example, the stadium does not prevent people who urinate and deficate from attending games. But they will kick you out if you do those things in places other than the desginated areas. Think of it like this. If I have to walk by an entrance where people are spraying beer on one another, do you think that's fair? Don't you think they should have to move to an area where no one has to be subject to carrying the stench of the beer on their clothes and in their hair?

That's not true at all. When I go to M&T where I go to smoke is outside in the open air. But it's outside in the open air inside the stadium where I feel included. It's not outside in the open air outside the stadium where I will feel like a banished and exiled outsider.

So I stand there on the concourse at the rail smoking my cigarette in the open air looking outward from the stadium to a stadium parking lot. To the left is the Ravens Marching Band warming up. To the right of them is a bunch of tailgaters. In front of the Tailgaters is a line of men pissing through a fence. Indecent exposure and public urination is not a problem at all. Smoking outside in the open air, HUGE PROBLEM! I guess it's best to get those smokers away from the rail so kids can stand there and watch the men pee. Apparently the Stadium Authority doesn't care if your child see's a mans penis as long as they don't see his cigarettes. So the stadium Authority is obviously far more concerned with where people smoke than where they urinate.

[babylinux]

In front of the Tailgaters is a line of men pissing through a fence.

Ha Ha, I see this near my section.

[Smokey 1]

That's not true at all. When I go to M&T where I go to smoke is outside in the open air. But it's outside in the open air inside the stadium where I feel included. It's not outside in the open air outside the stadium where I will feel like a banished and exiled outsider.

Years ago when I used to smoke we would always go out to the concourse to smoke at Camden Yards. We would be over at the rail as far as we could get from everyone else yet there were some a holes who would go out of their way and come right over to where we were smoking and wave their hands in front of their face and fake cough like our smoke was bothering them.

[Baltimatt]

I guess it's best to get those smokers away from the rail so kids can stand there and watch the men pee.

Great line!

[jonsensback]

I wonder if this applies to the Comcast center (UMD) where smokers are allowed to smoke outside the center on the terrace/deck area on the upper levels?

[jessup270]

That's not true at all. When I go to M&T where I go to smoke is outside in the open air. But it's outside in the open air inside the stadium where I feel included. It's not outside in the open air outside the stadium where I will feel like a banished and exiled outsider.

So I stand there on the concourse at the rail smoking my cigarette in the open air looking outward from the stadium to a stadium parking lot. To the left is the Ravens Marching Band warming up. To the right of them is a bunch of tailgaters. In front of the Tailgaters is a line of men pissing through a fence. Indecent exposure and public urination is not a problem at all. Smoking outside in the open air, HUGE PROBLEM! I guess it's best to get those smokers away from the rail so kids can stand there and watch the men pee. Apparently the Stadium Authority doesn't care if your child see's a mans penis as long as they don't see his cigarettes. So the stadium Authority is obviously far more concerned with where people smoke than where they urinate.

Nothing like the experience of being at an NFL game, the excitement, the pageantry, the sights, the sounds and the aromas.

Sitting at home and watching the big screen offers none of this.

[jessup270]

One more right taken away. Now if they can just ban the drunks - no more loud cussing, no pizzing in the stands and bathroom sinks, no more fights, etc. that many also find disgusting and offensive.

I doubt that many colleges do it anymore, but many used to ban alcohol being sold at football games.

I forgot how people do in fact urinate in restroom sinks. So much for telling your kids to wash their hands before leaving the bathroom.

[Wizard777]

No on one is telling people that they cannot smoke only where they can smoke....and seriously u want to compare smoking to having control over a woman's vagina.....thanks for THAT laugh of the day!!!

No that is not the comparison. The comparison is an EQUAL right to have control over my body and not be discriminated against because of decisions I have made about my body. The Stadium Authority had made reasonable accomodations for smokers and they seemed to be working well. The only real problem is that the nonsmoking lobby is anything but reasonable. They have appointed themselves to be superior people with superior rights. They ultimately have a creeping agenda of riding the world of smokers. Because of their creeping agenda it doesn't matter that Stadium Authority has created a smoking area outside the stadium. That's just the new battleground for the nonsmokers to conquor and run the smokers out of. I'l give it a year, five years tops before the nonsmokers will not be able to live another second without being to stand in the middle of the designated smoking area with their thumb up their arse. Because they are superior people with superior rights. Their right to stand in the middle of a designated smoking area with their thumb up their arse is greater than vile low down filthy poor excuse of human beings right to stand in a designated smoking area to smoke. So Smokers will have to leave the stadium grounds and go across the street to smoke. Then about six months after that the Stadium Authority will decide it's too much trouble keeping track of all the people running in and out of the stadium. So if you leave to smoke you can't comeback in.......unless you buy another ticket. Because you become the tartget of prejudices and discrimination you are a nonhuman nonperson and it's okay to do unspeakable things to them, like rob them blind. You can't trust the animals to have money. They'll spend it on things the nonsmoking lobby might not like or in ways they might not agree with.

But once the nonsmoking lobby has succeeded in running smokers out of the stadium and off the property with their creeping agenda. Is that where it will stop? NOPE! Then the smokers will have to congregate in the smoking area across the street. The next thing you know smokers will have to stand in the median strip of 295 just outside DC. Then they'll go after the fatties. Because they already established that it's okay to discriminate against you based on what you put in your mouth and lungs. So of course they can discriminate against you based on what you put in you mouth and stomach. Do you think it's your body? No nacho's for you fat arse! Hit the streets and don't come back until you actually fit in your seat. Uh huh.......

[queenie]

No that is not the comparison. The comparison is an EQUAL right to have control over my body and not be discriminated against because of decisions I have made about my body. The Stadium Authority had made reasonable accomodations for smokers and they seemed to be working well. The only real problem is that the nonsmoking lobby is anything but reasonable. They have appointed themselves to be superior people with superior rights. They ultimately have a creeping agenda of riding the world of smokers. Because of their creeping agenda it doesn't matter that Stadium Authority has created a smoking area outside the stadium. That's just the new battleground for the nonsmokers to conquor and run the smokers out of. I'l give it a year, five years tops before the nonsmokers will not be able to live another second without being to stand in the middle of the designated smoking area with their thumb up their arse. Because they are superior people with superior rights. Their right to stand in the middle of a designated smoking area with their thumb up their arse is greater than vile low down filthy poor excuse of human beings right to stand in a designated smoking area to smoke. So Smokers will have to leave the stadium grounds and go across the street to smoke. Then about six months after that the Stadium Authority will decide it's too much trouble keeping track of all the people running in and out of the stadium. So if you leave to smoke you can't comeback in.......unless you buy another ticket. Because you become the tartget of prejudices and discrimination you are a nonhuman nonperson and it's okay to do unspeakable things to them, like rob them blind. You can't trust the animals to have money. They'll spend it on things the nonsmoking lobby might not like or in ways they might not agree with.

But once the nonsmoking lobby has succeeded in running smokers out of the stadium and off the property with their creeping agenda. Is that where it will stop? NOPE! Then the smokers will have to congregate in the smoking area across the street. The next thing you know smokers will have to stand in the median strip of 295 just outside DC. Then they'll go after the fatties. Because they already established that it's okay to discriminate against you based on what you put in your mouth and lungs. So of course they can discriminate against you based on what you put in you mouth and stomach. Do you think it's your body? No nacho's for you fat arse! Hit the streets and don't come back until you actually fit in your seat. Uh huh.......

Smoking is not a right....no one is saying that you can't smoke just where you can smoke and as far as anyone seeing men pee...why not ban men from the stadium....I mean seriously that's your defense to let you smoke.....LOL...you are a funny dude!!!

[Smokey 1]

Smoking is not a right....

Sure it is. We have a right to do with our own bodies as we please even if it something that is not "good for us".

[The Eternal White Belt]

Tell that to the DEA and the FDA... (not that I agree with them).