The sequester drowned my kitten.

[banner1124]

Not exactly.

They're mostly cutting the rate of increase.

The same thing is being done here. By the time all the evil, draconian, kitten drowning, sequesters are done spending will be up and taxes will be up.

Rate of increase cuts are still cuts

[SemiAuto]

Rate of increase cuts are still cuts

That is like saying my diet is working out well because I only gained 9 pounds instead of 10.

The underlying problem, too much spending, still exists.

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[SemiAuto]

Changes in spending from sequestration result in new budget projections below the CBO’s baseline projection of spending based on current law. The federal government would spend $3.62 trillion in the first year with sequestration versus the $3.69 trillion projected by CBO. By 2021, the government would spend $5.26 trillion versus the $5.41 trillion projected. Overall, without a sequester, federal spending would increase $1.7 trillion (blue line). Overall, without a sequester, federal spending would increase $1.80 trillion (blue line). With a sequester, federal spending would increase by $1.65 trillion (red line).

The 'draconian' cuts actually result in a $1.65 trillion increase in spending.

But my kitten has to drown.

[Steveg85321]

illustrating the nature of the hysteria

The president and his party, including Gov. O'Malley, are doing a great job of making it look like this miniscule reduction in the growth of spending is a big crisis. I guess for those whose jobs depend on voters believing they will keep the entitlements coming it is a big crisis.

No question the sequester is a clumsy, arbitrary way to go about cutting the budget, but if the politicians - and this applies to both parties - had the guts to make actual hard choices based on responsible spending, then it could be done in a more rational way. But something must be done; even beyond the risk our country is placing itself in, it is flat out immoral to saddle our children and grandchildren with the unstable effects of our living beyond our means.

[gonzoliberal]

Oh, the false indignation!

Where was all this concern about the deficit when Dubya was putting two wars on the credit card?

Oh, right...

[Sprightly]

Oh, the false indignation!

Where was all this concern about the deficit when Dubya was putting two wars on the credit card?

Oh, right...

Where is your indignation now?

[gonzoliberal]

Where is your indignation now?

Oh dear!

What should I be indignant about?

Republicans lying? (again)

Democrats spending? (again)

Posters being disgusting towards the First Lady? (again)

The "sequester" is a bi-partisan fuster cluck.

The way OUT SHOULD be, but at the moment, it isn't.

Maybe I'll get indignant about the Republicans refusing Obama's proposals to close fat-cat tax loopholes.

Oh dear! So much to get indignant about... so little time.

[CajunRaven]

Why? Because the cuts don't touch SS and Medicare/caid. So more money is going into those areas and the remaining areas--defense and discretionary domestic--get less money.

Not sure where the spending for 13 is (budget 3.7 I think?), know 12 came in at 3.5T, which was down from 11 and 10.

Last I saw, the new budget will be $30B more than last year.

[CajunRaven]

Unfortunately that's not how this sequester thing works. Cuts are across the board, same % for all programs. Would require legislation to give any flexibility to the exec branch to re-allocate funds.

http://www.ideamoneywatch.com/main/i...d=60&Itemid=72

Which I have said repeatedly here. All that is needed is a simple bill from congress tha Obama can quicly sign to give agency heads discretion to reallocate funds from one bucket to another.

[CajunRaven]

Rate of increase cuts are still cuts

You missed your calling Banner, you should be a politician.

Only in government can you get away with that kind of thinking. The government locks up other folks that think that way. At least they used to.

[CajunRaven]

Oh, the false indignation!

Where was all this concern about the deficit when Dubya was putting two wars on the credit card?

Oh, right...

Uh hmmm. Speaking of those false equilavancies.

BTW, alot if us were complaing about Bush the drunken sailor. Obama is a drunken admiral.

[CajunRaven]

Where is your indignation now?

It's ok now because Dubya did it. Obama has just perfected the art.

[SemiAuto]

Arne Duncan tries to drown a kitten.

[Sprightly]

Oh dear!

What should I be indignant about?

Republicans lying? (again)

Democrats spending? (again)

Posters being disgusting towards the First Lady? (again)

The "sequester" is a bi-partisan fuster cluck.

The way OUT SHOULD be, but at the moment, it isn't.

Maybe I'll get indignant about the Republicans refusing Obama's proposals to close fat-cat tax loopholes.

Oh dear! So much to get indignant about... so little time.

Democrats lying (again)?

[SemiAuto]

IOKIADDI

Or something like that...

[Sprightly]

It seems, though, that even that number might be too big to fully capture the degree of fear-mongering by the administration. As the Washington Post is now reporting, U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan actually has no evidence to back up the claim he made on Face the Nation this weekend that “there are literally teachers now who are getting pink slips, who are getting notices that they can’t come back this fall.” OK, he could point to one example – Kanawha County, West Virginia – but not without adding, “whether it’s all sequester-related, I don’t know.”

Democrats don't lie so this must be a lie.

[Brohan]

Rate of increase cuts are still cuts

Good. The gov't just took 2 percent from everyone who receives a paycheck and it didnt kill the economy...2 percent from govt spending won't hurt the economy either.

[SemiAuto]

It seems, though, that even that number might be too big to fully capture the degree of fear-mongering by the administration. As the Washington Post is now reporting, U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan actually has no evidence to back up the claim he made on Face the Nation this weekend that “there are literally teachers now who are getting pink slips, who are getting notices that they can’t come back this fall.” OK, he could point to one example – Kanawha County, West Virginia – but not without adding, “whether it’s all sequester-related, I don’t know.”

Democrats don't lie so this must be a lie.

You'll regret that!!!!

[gonzoliberal]

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[gonzoliberal]

EVERYBODY lies.

'Just sayin'...