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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    I got ya, I was just responding to the wording of the other post. My comment is more appropriate on the anti smoking or anti rec drug threads.
    you can smoke all you want.....u just can't do it wherever you please without the threat of repercussions....again I'll say this: it's always ok to break a law when that law doesn't fit our agenda.....people can justify ANYTHING and that makes it ok.....I smoke pot....do I think it's silly that it's illegal to do so....of course I do but that doesn't make it any less illegal....I don't like the law and I'm doing everything I can (legally) to change it

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenie View Post
    you can smoke all you want.....u just can't do it wherever you please without the threat of repercussions....again I'll say this: it's always ok to break a law when that law doesn't fit our agenda.....people can justify ANYTHING and that makes it ok.....I smoke pot....do I think it's silly that it's illegal to do so....of course I do but that doesn't make it any less illegal....I don't like the law and I'm doing everything I can (legally) to change it
    Its a bullcrap law that can't be justified under the Constitution. Nowhere does the Constitution give the government the legal standing to restrict what we put into our bodies. They can advise but they cannot restrict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    Its a bullcrap law that can't be justified under the Constitution. Nowhere does the Constitution give the government the legal standing to restrict what we put into our bodies. They can advise but they cannot restrict.
    why......just because YOU say it can't be justified under the Constitution doesn't make it so....I say you should go smoke a joint and chill out about it....that's what I'm doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenie View Post
    why......just because YOU say it can't be justified under the Constitution doesn't make it so....I say you should go smoke a joint and chill out about it....that's what I'm doing
    Not because I say it, its because the Constitution doesn't give the government ownership of our bodies. Please point out where you think it does if you don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenie View Post
    Here you go: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    HUH?


    Are you : (a) new to this country? ; (b) failed US History?; (c) a Socialist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    ... the fascist revolution of 1900...
    Get a grip!

    That horrible fascist William McKinley.

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    Some people just need to seek help, I guess. This kind of hysteria can't be healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    Even that doesn't give the government possession of our bodies.
    From the fascists standpoint , WE THE PEOPLE have no rights, according to them , we only have PRIVILEGES subject to bureacratic discretion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regularguy View Post
    Who says it does?

    It gives the federal government the right to restrict interstate commerce of a food product deemed unsafe to public health.
    Yo Vern, who insures nuclear reactors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    HUH?


    Are you : (a) new to this country? ; (b) failed US History?; (c) a Socialist

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    silly man......u should not assume....LOL!!! I am not new to America....I did not fail US History and I'm not a socialist but this isn't about me it's about your post.....why can't you stay on topic...never mind I already know why

    Now please go smoke some weed and chill out!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Doesn't the fact that there were NO FEDERAL LAWS "regulating what Americans ate, drank and smoked prior to the fascist revolution of 1900 , tell you that the Commerce Clause is irrelevant?
    Don't really know what fascist revolution you are referring to--and please don't feel you need to tell me, really you don't. But for future reference the term "fascism" wasn't in use til Mussolini popularized in the early 20s I believe. Certainly wasn't even a political concept in 1900.

    But thank God he did! What a splendid, all purpose slur!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yo Vern, who insures nuclear reactors?
    Not sure what your point is, but here's the answer:
    The Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act (commonly called the Price-Anderson Act) is a United States federal law, first passed in 1957 and since renewed several times, which governs liability-related issues for all non-military nuclear facilities constructed in the United States before 2026. The main purpose of the Act is to partially indemnify the nuclear industry against liability claims arising from nuclear incidents while still ensuring compensation coverage for the general public. The Act establishes a no fault insurance-type system in which the first approximately $12.6 billion (as of 2011) is industry-funded as described in the Act. Any claims above the $12.6 billion would be covered by a Congressional mandate to retroactively increase nuclear utility liability or would be covered by the federal government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by regularguy View Post
    Here ya go:
    "In FDA's view all raw milk is a communicable disease and is "adulterated"; so, a product that is legal to sell under the laws of two neighboring states is a "communicable disease" and illegal when it crosses from one neighboring state into another. The federal ban on raw milk is a prohibition on a product that is legal to sell or distribute in at least twenty-nine (29) states and legal to consume in all fifty ".

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    It's not "gun control". It's "victim disarmament".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResearcher
    It's not "gun control". It's "victim disarmament".
    http://images4.alphacoders.com/146/146716.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    "In FDA's view all raw milk is a communicable disease and is "adulterated"; so, a product that is legal to sell under the laws of two neighboring states is a "communicable disease" and illegal when it crosses from one neighboring state into another. The federal ban on raw milk is a prohibition on a product that is legal to sell or distribute in at least twenty-nine (29) states and legal to consume in all fifty ".

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    When did the FDA say that "all raw milk is a communicable disease"?

    It stands to reason that raw milk is far more likely to carry harmful germs than is pasteurized, but that's a far cry from "all raw milk is a communicable disease"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenie View Post
    well there's that too and also REVENUE raising which are many things....I would think needing a permit which aren't FREE is one way to raise revenue....again these are INTERPRETATIONS and that's why we have the SCOTUS...or maybe you don't believe in the SCOTUS s.

    .either???
    The Constitution was adopted in order to protect our liberties. So WE THE PEOPLE are the ulimate guardians of the Constitutin .Not 9 bureacrats,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The Constitution was adopted in order to protect our liberties. So WE THE PEOPLE are the ulimate guardians of the Constitutin .Not 8 bureacrats,
    Who are these "8 bureacrats"? The Supreme Court, minus Clarence Thomas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    True, but it doesn't give them the right to restrict what we put into our bodies.
    Understand that you are talking to the members of the fascist/socialist axis of evil. Those folks are government supremacists who believe that the government has the right to enslave us .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The Constitution was adopted in order to protect our liberties. So WE THE PEOPLE are the ulimate guardians of the Constitutin .Not 9 bureacrats,
    Actually the Constitution grew out of problems with the Articles of Confederation and I'm sure you are familiar with those.

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