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    Default Senate Preserves Gun Licensing Proposal

    "Sen. Brian Frosh, the Montgomery County Democrat who led the floor debate, called licensing “the most important part” of the bill. “This will save lives,” he said. Experts have told lawmakers that states with strict licensing laws have lower rates of gun deaths, in part because requiring a license makes it less likely someone will buy a firearm on behalf of a criminal."
    "This will save lives"? Whose lives, the thugs'? What are these people smoking? Do they really think that making it harder for the law abiding citizens to obtain a gun is really going to make a difference to the parasites that obtain them illegally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ybnormal View Post
    "This will save lives"? Whose lives, the thugs'? What are these people smoking? Do they really think that making it harder for the law abiding citizens to obtain a gun is really going to make a difference to the parasites that obtain them illegally?

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    The only ones affected by this will be the law~biding, not the competing drug warriors and criminals who will continue to create carnage in certain areas. If the honest intention is to save lives ~ and I do not think it is ~ it will fail. I believe it to merely be an "accomplishment" that the current~governor will use to advance whatever political ambitions he has and to keep pace with others elsewhere who are pushing the same.

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    This will save the lives of at least 25 children i'm sure.

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    This will do NOTHING to curb gun violence. The only two things this will do will make these moronic politicians sleep better at night thinking they accomplished something and help O'Malley collect another FEE.

    You want to curb gun violence bring back the 3 strike and your out law. Put these criminals behind bars for LIFE and bring back the old prison system where they work while serving time.

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    There is also a huge problem with this part.

    Instead, senators voted to prohibit guns from people who have been admitted to a mental health facility under an emergency petition that deems the patient a threat to themselves or others.
    The first problem is that an emergency petition does not deem a person to be a threat to themselves or others. It's merely an accusation. That accusation can be made by anyone against anyone else. There is also a loophole in the law that allows the police to bypass the judge and go straight to the emergency room. If a judge grants the emergency petition the only thing that deems is that there is probable cause to believe to believe the person has a mental disorder that makes them a danger to themselves or others. It's basically a warrant for the seizure of a person for medical evaluation. There has been no medical evaluation to determine if anything in the petition is even true. There most certainly hasn't been an adjudication of any kind based on medical evidence gathered during an evaluation. So this would deprive people of their second amendment right without due process. The emergency petition process can be abused even by the police.

    Man detained after climbing Greenbury Point radio tower

    Cross said that he was taken to the hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. He was released six hours later, he said.

    “I really do enjoy it being up there on top of everything,” he said. “It’s freedom — freedom at its finest, right there.”

    Campbell confirmed there aren’t any “no trespassing” signs warning people to stay off the towers.
    It's bad enough this young man suffered an abuse of process at the hands of police who could not legally arrest him and filed an emergency petition instead. Now the legislature wants to compound this abuse with a law that would deprive him of his second amendment right based on what amounts to a false accusation.

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    No gun control law could have prevented the tragedy in Newtown, Colorado, or Virginia Tech, period end of sentence. Nor will it stop the 200+ murders per year in Baltimore City.

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    It has passed the Senate.

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    Also can someone explain how a right can be licensed? Does everyone who applies get the license? Must one pay for the license?

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    Licensing becomes a gun registry.

    The Firearms Owners Protection of 1986 is a federal law that prohibits a federal gun registry for non-NFA firearms.

    Likely that this will go to the US Supreme Court if it gets enacted.

    O'Malley is a pandering fool. He's obviously posturing to run for President.
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    You want less gun violence,put criminals in prison with stiff sentences and use the death penalty. Fix our broken mental health care system. This new fag law will not stop another drool bag from getting a gun and shooting up the place. Owe'Malley is a total disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro666 View Post
    Also can someone explain how a right can be licensed? Does everyone who applies get the license? Must one pay for the license?
    Without going into a full blown gun debate, every Supreme Court decision to come down the pike on gun possession has upheld the rights of the states to "regulate" firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Without going into a full blown gun debate, every Supreme Court decision to come down the pike on gun possession has upheld the rights of the states to "regulate" firearms.
    I guess we'll have to see if SCOTUS agrees with these steps then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan View Post
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    Licensing becomes a gun registry.

    The Firearms Owners Protection of 1986 is a federal law that prohibits a federal gun registry for non-NFA firearms.

    Likely that this will go to the US Supreme Court if it gets enacted.
    I never knew this existed! Seems very clear cut, no ambiguity.

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    No toughening of existing gun law was allowed in this bill. I wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro666 View Post
    No toughening of existing gun law was allowed in this bill. I wonder why?
    Nor were there any bills introduced to toughen up laws against criminals. The only bill introduced was to remove capital punishment from the books. A win win for criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro666 View Post
    No toughening of existing gun law was allowed in this bill. I wonder why?
    There are actually already tough gun laws on the books. The problem is judges who give out light sentences. If you gave every criminal convicted of possessing a gun in the commission of a crime 5 years. That's a full 5 years and not two years and out on parole or for good time, I'm sure you'd see a lot less gun crime. although that's not what this is really about. This is about a knee jerk reaction to Newtown that this still won't prevent

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    Ken I can't agree with you more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastsider View Post
    Ken I can't agree with you more
    Me either.

    And whatever happened to Project Exile, which O'Malley abhorred during his reign of terror as Mayor of Baltimore when over 3500 mostly black, mostly young, mostly men were slaughtered on his watch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    There are actually already tough gun laws on the books. The problem is judges who give out light sentences. If you gave every criminal convicted of possessing a gun in the commission of a crime 5 years. That's a full 5 years and not two years and out on parole or for good time, I'm sure you'd see a lot less gun crime. although that's not what this is really about. This is about a knee jerk reaction to Newtown that this still won't prevent
    YEP...totally agree!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Without going into a full blown gun debate, every Supreme Court decision to come down the pike on gun possession has upheld the rights of the states to "regulate" firearms.
    Begs the question, if a ban is a form of regulation?

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