Delaware open carry proponent stops muggers

[MLArthur]

New Castle County police spokesman Cpl. Trinidad Navarro said the holdup happened at 5:45 p.m. Monday in the first block of Chesterfield Drive in Garfield Park.

A 37-year-old man told officers that he was taking items out of his car when two men walked up to him and stuck an object in his side and attempted to rob him.

The victim said he thought the assailants were going to shoot him, so he pulled out his own 9 mm handgun and fired one round at the suspects.

Navarro said the man was not sure if he hit either of the assailants, although he did hear a loud moaning sound after he fired the shot.

The two would-be robbers ran off in the direction of Bizarre Drive.

While officers were on their way to the first call about the robbery, a second call came in about an 18-year-old man with a gunshot wound to his upper chest.

The shooting victim told the officers he was shot by a group of men who tried to rob him on Briarcliff Drive.

He was admitted to Christiana Hospital in stable condition.

Officers investigating the first case on Chesterfield Road recovered the gun from the victim and are holding it as evidence.

http://www.delawareonline.com/articl.../81125036/1006

We need to allow our citizens to be allowed to defend ourselves here in Maryland too. It is time our being kept defensless ends and we are allowed to defend ourselves and our families when shopping at malls or even on our own streets in front of our houses.
In every state surrounding Maryland we can wear a gun to defend our families from criminals and attackers. It is normal there for the average person to be allowed to wear a gun, so why not here? Why is Maryland the oddball and why are the people in power so uncaring about the victims of violent crime?

[NOTAGUNNUT]

http://www.baltimoresun2.com/talk/sh...d.php?t=174080



Thanks for the introduction to the new website.

[Virginia Poe]

Originally Posted by MLArthur

http://www.delawareonline.com/articl.../81125036/1006

We need to allow our citizens to be allowed to defend ourselves here in Maryland too. It is time our being kept defensless ends and we are allowed to defend ourselves and our families when shopping at malls or even on our own streets in front of our houses.
In every state surrounding Maryland we can wear a gun to defend our families from criminals and attackers. It is normal there for the average person to be allowed to wear a gun, so why not here? Why is Maryland the oddball and why are the people in power so uncaring about the victims of violent crime?

I agree..good for this guy. The would be thief got what he deserved.

[MLArthur]

Originally Posted by NOTAGUNNUT

http://www.baltimoresun2.com/talk/sh...d.php?t=174080



Thanks for the introduction to the new website.

Damn, you beat me to it.

[canis-latrans]

My, it's been some hours since this was posted and none of the anti gun/ naysayer types have chimed in yet?


And yes why is MD the oddball state? I know DE is actually a may-issue state, but with some work it isn't too hard to get a lisc there from what I understand, plus they enjoy unlisc open carry. Plus DE accepts my FL lisc, so I could carry concealed there too. MD accepts NO out of state carry lisc's ( with exception of the law enforcment federal thing for retired and off duty LEO's from other states, but I am sure MD guv and SP aren't too keen on that either). VA allows concealed and also unlisc open carry and unlisc open carry in vehicles. PA allows concealed, and unliscenced open carry on foot, except in Philthy you need a carry lisc for open carry. WV allows open carry also unlisc I understand, and has shall issue concealed as well.

Even liberal MA has counties/towns where it is easy to get a carry lisc, and the rural counties of NY and CA seem to be pretty nice about giving out carry lisc's too.

Conclusion- MD politics are full of idiots who coddle criminals. Frosh must get his rocks off over it. Strange fetish I must say. I guess raped women testifying turns him on too.

[MLArthur]

Originally Posted by canis-latrans

My, it's been some hours since this was posted and none of the anti gun/ naysayer types have chimed in yet?


And yes why is MD the oddball state? I know DE is actually a may-issue state, but with some work it isn't too hard to get a lisc there from what I understand, plus they enjoy unlisc open carry. Plus DE accepts my FL lisc, so I could carry concealed there too. MD accepts NO out of state carry lisc's ( with exception of the law enforcment federal thing for retired and off duty LEO's from other states, but I am sure MD guv and SP aren't too keen on that either). VA allows concealed and also unlisc open carry and unlisc open carry in vehicles. PA allows concealed, and unliscenced open carry on foot, except in Philthy you need a carry lisc for open carry. WV allows open carry also unlisc I understand, and has shall issue concealed as well.

Even liberal MA has counties/towns where it is easy to get a carry lisc, and the rural counties of NY and CA seem to be pretty nice about giving out carry lisc's too.

Conclusion- MD politics are full of idiots who coddle criminals. Frosh must get his rocks off over it. Strange fetish I must say. I guess raped women testifying turns him on too.

I agree!

YOu bring up Massachussettes and their license system. Massachussettes which has about the same population as MD has nearly twenty times as many people licensened to carry handguns as Maryland, but less than a third of the violent crime and murder rate.

In Northern Ireland, a country in the UK, they have a fourth of the population of Maryland, but they have many more people licensed to carry a handgun for personal protection than there are in Maryland.
They also have a third or less of the murder rate as Maryland does.

It is sad that in the UK where three countries out of four have banned handguns altogether (England, Wales, Scotland), the fourth one has more trust of their citizens to be armed with handguns for protection than Maryland does.

[bobodean]

Originally Posted by MLArthur

http://www.delawareonline.com/articl.../81125036/1006

We need to allow our citizens to be allowed to defend ourselves here in Maryland too. It is time our being kept defensless ends and we are allowed to defend ourselves and our families when shopping at malls or even on our own streets in front of our houses.
In every state surrounding Maryland we can wear a gun to defend our families from criminals and attackers. It is normal there for the average person to be allowed to wear a gun, so why not here? Why is Maryland the oddball and why are the people in power so uncaring about the victims of violent crime?

Here in MD, the "powers that be" would rather have us defenseless. They bow to the liberal gun haters. They cant see the facts about self defense when it comes to firearms. They just "know" more guns in the hands of the good guys "must" cause more crime..forget about all the evidence to the contrary.

[Lawman 27]

Maryland allow its citizens to defend themselves? You are joking right?

In fact, the Sunpapers published a letter to the editor this morning* talking about how tougher gun laws can stop crime.

(Of course, this letter was written by a student in Yuppie-ville (Towson). That being said, this may be the one person in the state that has less knowledge of real life then our Sunpapers writers)!



* http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...,4969531.story

[MrRational]

Originally Posted by Lawman 27

In fact, the Sunpapers published a letter to the editor this morning* talking about how tougher gun laws can stop crime.

(Of course, this letter was written by a student in Yuppie-ville (Towson).

She sounds like a sweet kid.

Let's hope she read's the comments and learns something. (39 so far @ 2:50pm)

[NOTAGUNNUT]

Originally Posted by bobodean

Here in MD, the "powers that be" would rather have us defenseless. They bow to the liberal gun haters. They cant see the facts about self defense when it comes to firearms. They just "know" more guns in the hands of the good guys "must" cause more crime..forget about all the evidence to the contrary.

They see just fine, and know exactly what they are doing, and who they are bowing to.

It sure ain't the people of Maryland!

[bobodean]

Originally Posted by NOTAGUNNUT

They see just fine, and know exactly what they are doing, and who they are bowing to.

It sure ain't the people of Maryland!

Agreed.
Hey, I just bought a new ar in .223. Know of any ammo around? 1000 rounds wont last long. This gun can shoot!

[NOTAGUNNUT]

Originally Posted by bobodean

Agreed.
Hey, I just bought a new ar in .223. Know of any ammo around? 1000 rounds wont last long. This gun can shoot!

Charles G. is the ammo expert.

[Tunguska]

Originally Posted by bobodean

Agreed.
Hey, I just bought a new ar in .223. Know of any ammo around? 1000 rounds wont last long. This gun can shoot!

My advice: Fire 30-40 rds. to get the feel of your rifle then stash the remainder.

I have a feeling that in a year or two or six that ammo will be irreplaceable and worth it's weight in gold.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

[bobodean]

Originally Posted by Tunguska

My advice: Fire 30-40 rds. to get the feel of your rifle then stash the remainder.

I have a feeling that in a year or two or six that ammo will be irreplaceable and worth it's weight in gold.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

did 40 rounds the other week.

[canis-latrans]

I bought a bunch of ammo today LOL- spent 105.00 at the Walmart in Shrewsbury PA, and I was carrying concealed too.

At MD Line ( a town name if you don't know) there is a bridge that goes over I83 and you can see the Welcome to PA sign from there and see the pavement change on the interstate. The bridge has one of those safety fence things, reminds me of a cage barring one from freedom as you glance to "America" so close yet so far. One day I will take a pic, been too lazy to pull over and walk up and wait till no traffic to take a pic of this odd veiw.

[bobodean]

Originally Posted by canis-latrans

I bought a bunch of ammo today LOL- spent 105.00 at the Walmart in Shrewsbury PA, and I was carrying concealed too.

At MD Line ( a town name if you don't know) there is a bridge that goes over I83 and you can see the Welcome to PA sign from there and see the pavement change on the interstate. The bridge has one of those safety fence things, reminds me of a cage barring one from freedom as you glance to "America" so close yet so far. One day I will take a pic, been too lazy to pull over and walk up and wait till no traffic to take a pic of this odd veiw.

I thought WalMart had a "no carry" policy? Haha.
I have a buddy who lives in GlenRock and owns 7 acres. When we go shooting up there I always stop at WalMart to buy something to shoot at...cheap soda, oranges, cookies..whatever. Its called "concealed carry" for a reason.

[canis-latrans]

I have never seen anything saying this walmart doesn't like concealed carry, and corporate agrees with whatever the local carry laws are, though some managers of some walmarts have gotten crappy about open carry. Even if the walmart had a big no guns sign at the doors, it has no weight, unless they discover you are carrying, ask you to leave and you refuse, then they can get you for tresspass.

I did once see a guy open carrying there, he was walking out briskly, probably got heckled by a manager for it LOL- still don't know who he was was, none of the open carry guys I chitchat with say it was them. Now I had been standing in sporting goods for about 90 mins chatting with this guy I know, and I wish the open carry guy had come over to buy ammo or something, as I would have been all over him telling him how wonderful he is.


You and your buddy should try open carry btw LOL

[Charles Guggenheimer]

Originally Posted by NOTAGUNNUT

Charles G. is the ammo expert.

Thanks, but no... I don't even reload any ammo.

I do know that most AR type rifles are marked 5.56mm so you can shoot both 5.56mm and .223 cal ammo BUT if your firearm is marked .223 cal, using 5.56mm risks destroying that firearm.

http://www.fulton-armory.com/556-vs-223-Chambers.htm

[METALSTUD]

Well........who carried today? I did! Escaped from Maryland to a part of Free America (Pennsylvania).

[METALSTUD]

Originally Posted by Charles Guggenheimer

Thanks, but no... I don't even reload any ammo.

I do know that most AR type rifles are marked 5.56mm so you can shoot both 5.56mm and .223 cal ammo BUT if your firearm is marked .223 cal, using 5.56mm risks destroying that firearm.

http://www.fulton-armory.com/556-vs-223-Chambers.htm

If your AR is classified as Wyle Chambered it will accept both .223 Remington & 5.56 x 45mm Ammunition.