Mad Men II

CountessMeout · #1 09-20-2009, 11:21 PM

How nice the petty secretary was the one to create mayhem. But WHY would the Brits think the guy couldn't still schmooze clients with a prostethic leg? So he'd limp a little.

Poor Joan. She deserves better. I bet she'll get it, somehow.

Duke of Earl · #2 09-21-2009, 05:05 PM

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How nice the petty secretary was the one to create mayhem. But WHY would the Brits think the guy couldn't still schmooze clients with a prostethic leg? So he'd limp a little.

Poor Joan. She deserves better. I bet she'll get it, somehow.

Joan , will be back....I hope.

"It looks like Iwo Jima out there."

CountessMeout · #3 09-21-2009, 05:13 PM

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Joan , will be back....I hope.

"It looks like Iwo Jima out there."

Typical of Roger to make a bad analogy. Joan has to come back. Greg is not whom she thought he was. He's going to be abusive/ disgustingly weak. Hooker will mess up and Lane will need her to come back.

poffit · #4 09-23-2009, 09:54 AM

The whole JFK angle was creepy, but good.

CountessMeout · #5 09-23-2009, 01:49 PM

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The whole JFK angle was creepy, but good.

At least we know it was a lone driver on the grassy knoll and not a conspiracy.

CountessMeout · #6 09-27-2009, 11:09 PM

How could Peggy do that? Really?

Duke of Earl · #7 09-28-2009, 05:44 AM

I agree, but I don't want to put in spoilers this early.

Maybe it's just me and her physical appearance , but I will always look on Peggy as a
14 year old girl. Joan is the woman on that show. Hope she comes back.

CountessMeout · #8 09-28-2009, 10:38 AM

Peggy does look young and fresh. Joan is lush and ripe. And Betty is crazy lemonade.

Duke of Earl · #9 11-08-2009, 05:14 PM

The final episode of this season of "Mad Mem" is tonight. It hasn't gotten much play in this forum.

CountessMeout · #10 11-08-2009, 08:25 PM

I know. They concentrated on some things that may have been less interesting and scattered the cast. Poor Sal. Poor Joan. Others seem so marginalized. Who wants to see Betty with Henry? Ugh.

Duke of Earl · #11 11-09-2009, 08:27 AM

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I know. They concentrated on some things that may have been less interesting and scattered the cast. Poor Sal. Poor Joan. Others seem so marginalized. Who wants to see Betty with Henry? Ugh.

Joan is back. IMO Sal will be . I certainly agree with you on Henry.

CountessMeout · #12 11-09-2009, 10:44 AM

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Joan is back. IMO Sal will be . I certainly agree with you on Henry.

I know, so happy to see Joan! Yes, Sal could be back- he was still in the credits.

I suspect Henry will be a let down to Bets after Don, as a lover. But in the interim, Don will get to sleep around some more.

funkateer · #13 11-09-2009, 12:04 PM

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I know. They concentrated on some things that may have been less interesting and scattered the cast. Poor Sal. Poor Joan. Others seem so marginalized. Who wants to see Betty with Henry? Ugh.

I've never posted here before (TV forum); I'm usually on Locals, but came here after last night's episode STILL has me thinking. Talk about going out with a bang! As I said to my wife, could they have put any more big developments in that episode? More important stuff happened last night than has happened all season long, it seemed!

Totally agree about Bets' new guy. What is she thinking? She's marrying some guy she hardly even knows! It's kind of ironic that she would do that after being so hurt about she "didn't know" who her husband was after all those years. Unless a major amount of time has passed since the time she told Don she needed to take a drive (I think it was the JFK assasination episode) and instead wound up kissing Henry in that parking lot, it's been a ridiculously short time she's known him, and hasn't even seen him that many times...how well does she really know him? One can't be too careful when small children are in the picture. I think this is not going to turn out well, I get a bad feeling about the guy - he's too slick. Agreeing to not take anything monetarily from Don is also a bad idea for Betty; it obviously makes her totally dependent upon Henry, the man she hardly knows, which is how I'm sure he wants it....has SHE thought of this..?

And how could she just leave her kids with their housekeeper for six weeks?!? I thought that Carla was not a "live-in" housekeeper, that she drove to the Drapers' and then usually went home to her family at the end of the day? Maybe Don will be around a lot - but if he's going to live there for that 6 weeks, the show didn't say it, and the episode didn't end with that scenario being shown...all I know is that it seemed a big deal to Betty when Don wanted her to go to Rome with him for only 2 DAYS...he had to assure her that Carla could take care of the kids for that short time....

And as my wife pointed out, not only is she marrying a guy she hardly knows, it's a guy she wasn't going to have anything to do with only a short while ago. She wasn't interested in seeing him on the side (too "tawdry"), and left him - but once he basically proposed to her, that all changes. Makes one wonder whether Don was right when he said to her that she only wanted to be "set up" (or something along those lines, can't recall the exact words).

Up til now the characters were portrayed as Don as the lying, womanizing, chameleonlike antihero, while his wife was (I think) supposed to be the more sympathetic character: the long-suffering wife who doesn't even know who she is anymore because she gave up herself for the stultifying role as housewife (or "housecat" as her father perhaps put it better). This final episode really starts to show Don in a better light, showing more of the good guy that was always there underneath his mendacious exterior, while at the same time showing the coldness in Betty as something that is, perhaps, just her personality after all.

And then you've got that INCREDIBLE scene with Don, Roger, Bert and Layne all sitting around in the Bert's ofice, plotting the new company, and how they could extricate them from their current situation....nothing short of Shakespearean! Totally riveting. Does anyone think any of the others will eventually be asked to join (I specifically thought of Kinsey), or is the staff in the hotel room now what it's going to be for now? I thought that perhaps they just wanted to assemble the "must have" players for starters (mainly the ones who bring the accounts they need for the cash flow), but might approach others a later time.

I know this, never before have I been so impatient at the end of an episode of television for the next episode....! When does season 4 start..?

CountessMeout · #14 11-09-2009, 12:46 PM

A Season 4 date wasn't aanounced when they said it was being renewed. Probably not until August.

Henry is a father substitute for Betty. This will not end well. He appears to have money and connections and Betty has some inheritance so I can see her doing the "I don't need anything from you spiel."

Most of the episodes if not all this season had date references in them because they were leading up to the assassination and the fallout societally afterward. I think people did re-evaluate their lives and make abrupt changes.

Remember Betty was close to her parent's black housekeeper- very much a second mother figure. She trusts Carla very much. Carla is imposed on but both Betty and Don do show some awareness and understanding even though they over depend upon her.

We may see some former Cooper/Sterling employees going to Duck for jobs. A battle for accounts will be wages. I did wonder why Peggy went with Don when Duck could have set her up.

I did love Layne telling off old Sinjin but, I wanted him to be more coarse in his newfound American style of business. Happy Christmas and F YOU and the whole pack, old man. He was used and abused too long. Now he can REVEL in getting his own back.