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11-10-2009, 12:26 PM
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In Britain, "The Wire" is Reality and Baltimore is a Scary, Dangerous Place
In Britain, "The Wire" is Reality and Baltimore is a Scary, Dangerous Place
So, should we be willing to sacrifice individual freedoms in exchange for a less violent society? After all, no one's claiming that England is a police state, right?
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11-10-2009, 12:30 PM
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Because of our equal devotion both to the rights of gun owners and the rights of criminals, we suffer from a preponderance of both. It’s a bad combination.
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11-10-2009, 12:39 PM
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how many of those "gun owners" are legal gun owners?
But if you wish to know what says it all this may help, and its from one of your own:
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Others are less hesitant to explore Baltimore’s deficiencies. In 1989, Maryland Senate President Mike Miller told a WBAL TV 11 reporter that “Baltimore is a (expletive) ghetto. It’s worse than inner city Washington, D.C.”
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11-10-2009, 12:40 PM
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The road to a police state is far far shorter in Britain and the rest of Europe.
I would rather keep our warts than accept theirs
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11-10-2009, 12:43 PM
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But if you wish to know what says it all this may help, and its from one of your own:
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And that is the biggest problem. The politicians know whats wrong but won't do anything about it because they have to pander to their voting base.
When the crooks and welfare cases outnumber the productive citizens you get this crazy kind of crooked backwards government. Detroit, DC, Baltimore. The only thing an honest hard working person can do about it is move. |
11-10-2009, 12:44 PM
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how many of those "gun owners" are legal gun owners?
But if you wish to know what says it all this may help, and its from one of your own:
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Umm...ok. Why so defensive? |
11-10-2009, 01:00 PM
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Umm...ok. Why so defensive?
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Not defensive at all, just trying to educate the writer and you on the word "legal vs "illegal".
I guess it didn't work at least for you. |
11-10-2009, 01:07 PM
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Not defensive at all, just trying to educate the writer and you on the word "legal vs "illegal".
I guess it didn't work at least for you.
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Neither I nor the writer spoke in terms of the qualifier "legal" vs. "illegal." In fact that qualifier is irrelevant to what he said and that I agree with. |
11-10-2009, 01:15 PM
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Neither I nor the writer spoke in terms of the qualifier "legal" vs. "illegal." In fact that qualifier is irrelevant to what he said and that I agree with.
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If the qualifier is irrelvent then you need more educating than I care to give.
Question though. Are the majority of the gun crimes in Baltimore used with legally owned guns or not?
In simple terms, didn't they already break the law in possessing a firearm illegally?
If that's too tough for you to deal with then ask for help. |
11-10-2009, 01:18 PM
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Sadly my daughter's Brit boyfriend wanted to see Wire neighborhoods while the two of them were visiting last year. People over there love, love, that show.
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11-10-2009, 01:18 PM
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If the qualifier is irrelvent then you need more educating than I care to give.
Question though. Are the majority of the gun crimes in Baltimore used with legally owned guns or not?
In simple terms, didn't they already break the law in possessing a firearm illegally?
If that's too tough for you to deal with then ask for help.
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Wow. You have to be the king of jumping to conclusions. I'm talking about the culture of American society. It has nothing to do with legality...  No go back and re-read the author's statement and ponder on that.
If you don't see wha tI'm talking about perhaps you should seek help in your critical thinking skills?? |
11-10-2009, 01:20 PM
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Sadly my daughter's Brit boyfriend wanted to see Wire neighborhoods while the two of them were visiting last year. People over there love, love, that show.
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A friend of the family who's from London (her dad's a Baltimorean, and she's been coming here her whole life) was telling me about that. Whenever she tells them she's going to visit Baltimore they all ask her about The Wire.
They think the whole city is like that...lol |
11-10-2009, 02:12 PM
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I'm station in Japan at the current moment. And I recall a night in Tokyo when I came across 2 gents from London and Sydney. The guy from London asked what state was I was from. I proudly said "Mary-Land and with no hesitation he spouted out you are from the "wire'. At that moment I felt kind of strange. He told me that the "Wire" is the most popular drama in London. I had to tell him I was from PG County just to get him to stop asking me murder, gun and all types of Wire related questions. I also get a lot of this from my fellow service members. B-more needs a face-lift or some type PR director to change the image of BMORE not just in the states but around the world.
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Sadly my daughter's Brit boyfriend wanted to see Wire neighborhoods while the two of them were visiting last year. People over there love, love, that show.
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11-10-2009, 02:24 PM
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H-m-m, very interesting. I was in London all of four days in September and managed to see two drug busts and capture one on film. Both occurred in a beautiful park within a block of our hotel, which happened to be 2 blocks from the grounds of Buckingham Palace, not exactly the poorer side of town  . Guess that means that I should assume everyone in London either distributes or buys drugs. Yes, sirree....your eyes are made to look from you. |
11-10-2009, 02:25 PM
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Because of our equal devotion both to the rights of gun owners and the rights of criminals, we suffer from a preponderance of both. It’s a bad combination.
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Really? Please provide an example of "our equal devotion to the rights of gun owners...". Did MD pass a Right-to-Carry law we're not aware of? The bad combination is people with the IQ of a rock carrying illegal weapons to impose their scurge on the innocent. |
11-10-2009, 02:29 PM
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Really? Please provide an example of "our equal devotion to the rights of gun owners...". Did MD pass a Right-to-Carry law we're not aware of? The bad combination is people with the IQ of a rock carrying illegal weapons to impose their scurge on the innocent.
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If you'd actually read the article posted, the author framed it within the larger context of the U.S. as opposed to England. |
11-10-2009, 02:33 PM
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blah blah blah baltimore, like every other big city, has a ghetto, yawn
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11-10-2009, 03:01 PM
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Wow. You have to be the king of jumping to conclusions. I'm talking about the culture of American society. It has nothing to do with legality... No go back and re-read the author's statement and ponder on that.
If you don't see wha tI'm talking about perhaps you should seek help in your critical thinking skills?? |
then you cleary didn't understand the quote you posted.
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Because of our equal devotion both to the rights of gun owners and the rights of criminals, we suffer from a preponderance of both. It’s a bad combination.
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It speaks of the rights of gun owners and the rights of criminals. As far as I know criminals have no right to gun ownership for their activities and the law covers that.
Obviously the writer and you are very confused with the "right of gun ownership" in this country.
As far as seeking help with critical thinking skills, its obvious you should follow your own advice on this thread and just about any other you have posted here, because you clearly suck in that regard,lol.
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11-10-2009, 03:15 PM
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The road to a police state is far far shorter in Britain and the rest of Europe.
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True. I lived three years in Britain. The government over there is far more intrusive than anyone over here can imagine. They also lead us in video surveillance systems. Also their police are a total and complete joke, and are simply not up to the task of dealing with knife-wielding thugs.
Read the British papers on the web--I do, every single day. |
11-10-2009, 03:21 PM
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Sadly my daughter's Brit boyfriend wanted to see Wire neighborhoods while the two of them were visiting last year. People over there love, love, that show.
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there was a guy i hoisted a few beers with at a pub here in canton a few months back...he actually charges $ to take out-of-towners through some of the blight.
ballsy stuff.
what a place. |
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