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Old 11-03-2009, 12:05 PM
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Here is the short answer to your question;

Schmoke
O'Malley
Dixon
Baltimore City Council
Maryland State Legislature
Yeah, I'm sure Dixon and O'Malley are the reasons the city sucked in the 70s and 80s


Anyway, the city is coming back. Even my super-cynical grandparents admit that.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:15 PM
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I see the "ghetto mindset" as the symptom, not the underlying cause of urban degradation. The cause is the "maturation" of our country (we're becoming Europe, who itself is being changed by the influx of foreign workers/thrid world peoples), growing out of an industrial/production economy to a service and information based one; now there are surplus people. Too many people for not enough jobs, degradation of the nuclear family, lenient judicial/government/school systems all caused this.
don't forget the affect of the crack epidemic and now meth in the rural/midwest. It is sad. Something about it doesn't seem right. It feels like a systematic, methodical dismantling of America and the developed world as we know it...........while the rich get richer.

Their is no way to stop it because the will of the masses has been broken. Add the way that the powers that be have divided us (blind conservatives and liberals). Add apathy to the mix, and you have a nation and its people in decline.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:18 PM
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How about a coherent thought out of that scrambled egg of yours just once... Huh?

seemed perfect to me oh great one who ignores the truth
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:19 PM
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One of the most truthful/factual things posted on this board. Two thumbs up!

the answer is all very basic and simple, it's in front of us daily.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:00 PM
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don't forget the affect of the crack epidemic and now meth in the rural/midwest. It is sad. Something about it doesn't seem right. It feels like a systematic, methodical dismantling of America and the developed world as we know it...........while the rich get richer.

Their is no way to stop it because the will of the masses has been broken. Add the way that the powers that be have divided us (blind conservatives and liberals). Add apathy to the mix, and you have a nation and its people in decline.

eh. we pay people to grow up ignorant.

if we cut off all welfare to the able-bodied, and let the riff-raff die off...we'd turn it around.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:11 PM
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...And God knows you know stupid...
Absolutely, you and your ilk remind me everyday here.
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Not to mention the painful part of growing up you...
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:41 PM
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don't forget the affect of the crack epidemic and now meth in the rural/midwest. It is sad. Something about it doesn't seem right. It feels like a systematic, methodical dismantling of America and the developed world as we know it...........while the rich get richer.

Their is no way to stop it because the will of the masses has been broken. Add the way that the powers that be have divided us (blind conservatives and liberals). Add apathy to the mix, and you have a nation and its people in decline.
Yes, meth, crack and heroin are all symptoms of decline; too many people without things to do. Poor people are doping all over the third world; many in the old and new worlds are not reaching middle class status adn are doping too...
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eh. we pay people to grow up ignorant.

if we cut off all welfare to the able-bodied, and let the riff-raff die off...we'd turn it around.
I agree 100%.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:43 PM
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don't forget the affect of the crack epidemic and now meth in the rural/midwest. It is sad. Something about it doesn't seem right. It feels like a systematic, methodical dismantling of America and the developed world as we know it...........while the rich get richer.

Their is no way to stop it because the will of the masses has been broken. Add the way that the powers that be have divided us (blind conservatives and liberals). Add apathy to the mix, and you have a nation and its people in decline.
There is so much truth to this. It's sad. Unfortunately, many people have a "me, me, me" mentality and don't seem to care about the direction the country is heading.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:50 PM
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While you're striving to grow up?
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:53 PM
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eh. we pay people to grow up ignorant.

if we cut off all welfare to the able-bodied, and let the riff-raff die off...we'd turn it around.
Welfare is a pittance paid so the poor don't riot and completely destroy what little peace and commerce there is now. Of course all taxpayers would love it if there were no one on the rolls, that people could take care of their own. The solution looking forward lies in 1) having some domestic production economy and 2) having real world incentives for the poor to not have kids and thus break the cycle of poverty and dependence. It would be cheaper to offer a qualifying poor person a lump sum of ~$30K to get surgically sterilized than it would be to support thru welfare aid, school costs and incarceration for offspring.
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It would be cheaper to offer a qualifying poor person a lump sum of ~$30K to get surgically sterilized than it would be to support thru welfare aid, school costs and incarceration for offspring.
I'm with you on that one. Unfortunately, that would be considered "inhumane" by the bleeding hearts.
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Yes, meth, crack and heroin are all symptoms of decline; too many people without things to do. Poor people are doping all over the third world; many in the old and new worlds are not reaching middle class status adn are doping too...
its a business too.

things that are a joke in this country:

Workforce development and other bull**** social programs
The war on drugs
Obama's job development plan via infrastructure development - it is socialist in nature.
Bush's no child left behind and all public education in general. We are not teaching men to fish. This is planned. It keeps the wealthy few, wealthy.
Securing borders/border patrol- lets get serious, how hard is it to contruct a wall at the border?
The correctional/penial system. If the government wanted to truly house all criminals, more jails would be built.
Bush's war on terror, homeland security, etc...
The pharmacutical industry

There are more, but I can't think now.

All of these things create jobs and keep certain folks rich at the sametime
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:13 PM
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its a business too.

things that are a joke in this country:

Workforce development and other bull**** social programs
The war on drugs
Obama's job development plan via infrastructure development - it is socialist in nature.
Bush's no child left behind and all public education in general. We are not teaching men to fish. This is planned. It keeps the wealthy few, wealthy.
Securing borders/border patrol- lets get serious, how hard is it to contruct a wall at the border?
The correctional/penial system. If the government wanted to truly house all criminals, more jails would be built.
Bush's war on terror, homeland security, etc...
The pharmacutical industry

There are more, but I can't think now.

All of these things create jobs and keep certain folks rich at the sametime

Welfare recipients should be made to work if they don't find a job within the 1st year of receiving benefits. Perhaps if they're out working during the day they won't have time to get knocked up by their deadbeat drug-dealing boyfriends...

Who babysits their kids while theyre out? Why another welfare recipient who has yet to find a job on their own. I'm all for assistance in times of need, but it shouldn't become a way of life.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:15 PM
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Welfare is a pittance paid so the poor don't riot and completely destroy what little peace and commerce there is now. Of course all taxpayers would love it if there were no one on the rolls, that people could take care of their own. The solution looking forward lies in 1) having some domestic production economy and 2) having real world incentives for the poor to not have kids and thus break the cycle of poverty and dependence. It would be cheaper to offer a qualifying poor person a lump sum of ~$30K to get surgically sterilized than it would be to support thru welfare aid, school costs and incarceration for offspring.
sadly I agree 100%. I realized this fact after taking high school social studies. No welfare,

America=Third World Nation
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:36 PM
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Who babysits their kids while theyre out? Why another welfare recipient who has yet to find a job on their own. I'm all for assistance in times of need, but it shouldn't become a way of life.
Yet, the Democrat creeps you continue to reelect ensure that it remains a way of life. Well done.

The only good part about it is that you get stuck with the bill along with the rest of us.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:40 PM
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Yet, the Democrat creeps you continue to reelect ensure that it remains a way of life. Well done.

The only good part about it is that you get stuck with the bill along with the rest of us.
How about the GOPers actually come up with decent candidates besides Ehrlich? Party of personal responsibility my butt.. "Waahh..they won't vote for us..." teehe
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:48 PM
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Ehrlich is fine by me, he did no wrong IMO. He just needed to stop having useless clogs in the sytem ( Mike Bushe,and Miller) blocking his goals.
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