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Attention Maryland drivers: Left-On-Red is legal here.

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In the state of Maryland, unless it's otherwise posted, it's legal to make a left turn on red from a one-way street to another one-way street.

 

It's in the Maryland Code, under Transportation, Title 21, Subtitle 2, Sub-Section 21-202:

 

(i)...Unless a sign prohibiting a turn is in place, vehicular traffic facing a steady red signal, after stopping as required by subsection (h) of this section, cautiously may enter the intersection and make:

 

(1) A right turn; or

 

(2) A left turn from a one-way street onto a one-way street.

 

(Source: http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=mdcode Type "left on red" in the search bar. )

 

So...if you are in Bel Air, for example, you can make a left on red from Courtland Street onto Main Street, from Office Street onto Bond Street, and from Baltimore Pike onto Main Street.

 

(This thread was inspired by the nice lady who flipped me the bird and told me I didn't know what I was talking about when she sat at Courtland and Main and waited and waited and waited for the light to change. I was behind her, leaned out my window, and called out to her that she could turn left...)

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In the state of Maryland, unless it's otherwise posted, it's legal to make a left turn on red from a one-way street to another one-way street.

 

It's in the Maryland Code, under Transportation, Title 21, Subtitle 2, Sub-Section 21-202:

 

(i)...Unless a sign prohibiting a turn is in place, vehicular traffic facing a steady red signal, after stopping as required by subsection (h) of this section, cautiously may enter the intersection and make:

 

(1) A right turn; or

 

(2) A left turn from a one-way street onto a one-way street.

 

(Source: http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=mdcode Type "left on red" in the search bar. )

 

So...if you are in Bel Air, for example, you can make a left on red from Courtland Street onto Main Street, from Office Street onto Bond Street, and from Baltimore Pike onto Main Street.

 

(This thread was inspired by the nice lady who flipped me the bird and told me I didn't know what I was talking about when she sat at Courtland and Main and waited and waited and waited for the light to change. I was behind her, leaned out my window, and called out to her that she could turn left...)

Lol, that is priceless.

 

Was she displaying her IQ with her finger wave?

 

With one cop for every square block in downtown BelAir, its amazing one wasn't wround then, but typical.

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Lol, that is priceless.

 

Was she displaying her IQ with her finger wave?

 

With one cop for every square block in downtown BelAir, its amazing one wasn't wround then, but typical.

 

For the record, I would imagine most people don't know this. Left on red is not usual and, as a guy who cares about road laws and etiquette too much for his own good, I was surprised to hear this.

 

If someone in the car behind me had yelled at me to make a left on red, I wouldn't give the finger, but I would think that person was wrong. Does that make me have a low IQ?

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Lazarus, it is legal however, not mandatory. If she didn't feel comfortable doing it, she doesn't need to. May I suggest, find another route or leave earlier? :)

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(i)...Unless a sign prohibiting a turn is in place, vehicular traffic facing a steady red signal, after stopping as required by subsection (h) of this section, cautiously may enter the intersection and make:

 

(1) A right turn; or

 

(2) A left turn from a one-way street onto a one-way street.

 

(Source: http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=mdcode Type "left on red" in the search bar. )

 

The keywords being "after stopping" of which most drivers have no clue, especially involving right-on-red.

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In the state of Maryland, unless it's otherwise posted, it's legal to make a left turn on red from a one-way street to another one-way street.

 

It's in the Maryland Code, under Transportation, Title 21, Subtitle 2, Sub-Section 21-202:

 

(i)...Unless a sign prohibiting a turn is in place, vehicular traffic facing a steady red signal, after stopping as required by subsection (h) of this section, cautiously may enter the intersection and make:

 

(1) A right turn; or

 

(2) A left turn from a one-way street onto a one-way street.

 

(Source: http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=mdcode Type "left on red" in the search bar. )

 

So...if you are in Bel Air, for example, you can make a left on red from Courtland Street onto Main Street, from Office Street onto Bond Street, and from Baltimore Pike onto Main Street.

 

(This thread was inspired by the nice lady who flipped me the bird and told me I didn't know what I was talking about when she sat at Courtland and Main and waited and waited and waited for the light to change. I was behind her, leaned out my window, and called out to her that she could turn left...)

 

Honestly I had forgotten about this law. Why? Because I don't drive one-way to one-way streets very often. Maybe she doesn't either. Presented this unusual situation, there is nothing like someone backseat driving you from the car behind you. Not knowing about this left on red exception she erred on the side of caution. To her, you probably looked like an angry driver just wanting to get to your destination 2 minutes earlier. This can be intimidating.

 

I try to follow the law and drive the best I can; I also try to allow for other peoples' mistakes and annoyances.

 

It's the lack of patience for and respect of others that seems to lead to a lot of driver aggression and accidents.

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For the record, I would imagine most people don't know this. Left on red is not usual and, as a guy who cares about road laws and etiquette too much for his own good, I was surprised to hear this.

 

If someone in the car behind me had yelled at me to make a left on red, I wouldn't give the finger, but I would think that person was wrong. Does that make me have a low IQ?

 

I hate to admit it, but I've been driving 25 years and left on red is news to me:(

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I hate to admit it, but I've been driving 25 years and left on red is news to me:(

 

Exactly. But on a different point, left on red is legal, not mandatory. For example, I have had people honking at me to turn right on red many times in Baltimore. I chose not to because the huge SUV next to me meant I couldn't see oncoming traffic.

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Exactly. But on a different point, left on red is legal, not mandatory. For example, I have had people honking at me to turn right on red many times in Baltimore. I chose not to because the huge SUV next to me meant I couldn't see oncoming traffic.
Your right, I thpought the npost was sarcastic and the lady actually made the left on a red,lol.

 

So much for early morning thread reading with my low IQ because I would have flipped off anyone in front of me he made a left on a red.:D

 

I would bet the BelAir cops don't even know its legal.

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Lazarus, it is legal however, not mandatory. If she didn't feel comfortable doing it, she doesn't need to. May I suggest, find another route or leave earlier? :)

 

It wasn't that she didn't feel comfortable, it was that she didn't know about the law, but told me that I didn't know what I was talking about and then flipped me off. You don't get the incongruity of that???

 

(And by the way...I had been in a business on Courtland Street, which is one-way, and runs between Bond and Main. The only way off of Courtland is through the intersection with Main Street. I had no option to take another route. And are you seriously suggesting I make time to allow for drivers who impede others because they don't know the law???)

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And are you seriously suggesting I make time to allow for drivers who impede others because they don't know the law???)

 

You are right. Clearly waiting a couple minutes for a light to change is a life-altering impediment. I say you sue her for emotional damages along with the opportunity cost of waiting that extra minute.

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...It's the lack of patience for and respect of others that seems to lead to a lot of driver aggression and accidents.

 

I can't imagine something more disrespectful than giving the finger to a stranger in traffic. She was lucky I'm a gentleman...

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I hate to admit it, but I've been driving 25 years and left on red is news to me:(

 

It's a relatively recent change to the law, if I recall correctly, perhaps within the last decade or so.

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I can't imagine something more disrespectful than giving the finger to a stranger in traffic. She was lucky I'm a gentleman...

 

I agree with you there. Her display of the "universal sign" was uncalled for.

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I can't imagine something more disrespectful than giving the finger to a stranger in traffic. She was lucky I'm a gentleman...

 

On that, we agree 100%.

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It wasn't that she didn't feel comfortable, it was that she didn't know about the law, but told me that I didn't know what I was talking about and then flipped me off. You don't get the incongruity of that???

 

(And by the way...I had been in a business on Courtland Street, which is one-way, and runs between Bond and Main. The only way off of Courtland is through the intersection with Main Street. I had no option to take another route. And are you seriously suggesting I make time to allow for drivers who impede others because they don't know the law???)

 

Yes, I am. Whether they're unaware of the law or are uncomfortable with performing the maneuver as long as the other driver isn't breaking any laws, you need to just deal with it. Or, seek counseling.

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You are right. Clearly waiting a couple minutes for a light to change is a life-altering impediment. I say you sue her for emotional damages along with the opportunity cost of waiting that extra minute.

 

amazing isn't it?:P

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It's a relatively recent change to the law, if I recall correctly, perhaps within the last decade or so.

 

It ain't THAT recent. At least 10 years... :mad:

 

And turn your lights on when you use wiper blades too!! :mad:

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Yes, I am. Whether they're unaware of the law or are uncomfortable with performing the maneuver as long as the other driver isn't breaking any laws, you need to just deal with it. Or, seek counseling.

 

if his panties are in a bunch over this one little thing I'm not sure counseling will help :D

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It's the lack of patience for and respect of others that seems to lead to a lot of driver aggression and accidents.

 

Yes, you mean the idiots who have to switch lanes because it seems like the lane you're in is moving oh so much faster than theirs and then they end up riding your *** until they can squeeze through to change lanes again.

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Exactly. But on a different point, left on red is legal, not mandatory. For example, I have had people honking at me to turn right on red many times in Baltimore. I chose not to because the huge SUV next to me meant I couldn't see oncoming traffic.

 

I don't think any reasonable person expects you to make a right-on-red, or a turn of any kind, if you can't see what's coming.

 

That's not what was happening here. This woman had a clear view of the intersection, and there was nothing coming, no reason for her to sit and wait and wait and wait. And I didn't charge up behind her blowing my horn. I waited until it was obvious that nothing was coming, and that she just didn't know she could turn left. When I spoke to her (both our windows were down) I was polite.

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I would bet the BelAir cops don't even know its legal.

 

And you would lose. I make lefts-on-red all the time at those intersections, with police in back of me. They know it's legal.

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You are right. Clearly waiting a couple minutes for a light to change is a life-altering impediment. I say you sue her for emotional damages along with the opportunity cost of waiting that extra minute.

 

How much spare time do you have to waste in traffic? Do you like to waste gasoline idling at a light? Especially because of people who don't know the law?

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Yes, I am. Whether they're unaware of the law or are uncomfortable with performing the maneuver as long as the other driver isn't breaking any laws, you need to just deal with it. Or, seek counseling.

 

I see...so in your own daily commute, how much extra time do you factor in to allow for people who don't know the law to delay you? Five minutes? Ten minutes?

 

If you believe such nonsense, you shouldn't be driving.

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Yes, you mean the idiots who have to switch lanes because it seems like the lane you're in is moving oh so much faster than theirs and then they end up riding your *** until they can squeeze through to change lanes again.

 

Yep. And they tail me in the right/slowest lane.

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