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#1 Foxtrot

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:19 PM

Well maybe.

In countless biographies of Adolf Hitler the story of his final hours is recounted in the traditional version: committing suicide with Eva Braun, he took a cyanide pill and then shot himself on 30 April 1945, as the Russians bombarded Berlin.

Some historians expressed doubt that the Führer had shot himself, speculating that accounts of Hitler's death had been embellished to present his suicide in a suitably heroic light. But a fragment of skull, complete with bullet hole, which was taken from the bunker by the Russians and displayed in Moscow in 2000, appeared to settle the argument.

Until now. In the wake of new revelations, the histories of Hitler's death may need to be rewritten

http://www.guardian....-skull-fragment
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#2 Taki

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:27 PM

From what I understand, They Saved Hitler's Brain.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:30 PM

Hitler's dental work was positively identified. That he died is beyond question. The Russians merely found a skull fragment and assumed it was Hitler's. They were wrong. I think this thing is like Bigfoot and Roswell and a thousand other conspiracy theories; long on speculation and short on evidence.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:49 PM

Be kind of nice to think he did get away and spent some decades in a roach infested hideout witnessing the depths of his failure.
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#5 Atlas

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 06:08 PM

Hitler's dental work was positively identified. That he died is beyond question.


You beat me to it... ;)
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

I saw the story about the Russian skull on the History channel. It just didn't mention dental work. ;)
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 06:24 PM

Sadly...the Hitler like spirit lives on....around the world.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 06:30 PM

Hitler's dental work was positively identified. That he died is beyond question. The Russians merely found a skull fragment and assumed it was Hitler's. They were wrong. I think this thing is like Bigfoot and Roswell and a thousand other conspiracy theories; long on speculation and short on evidence.


The story Ive allways thought I knew was he killed himself, his people took him outside and burned his body then burried it.

Later it was added that the Russians found him dug him up and took him to Russia.

So Im assuming that this current story, is that the dna on what was left of it, after Stalin said to get rid of it does not match.

So the body that the KGB says was Hitler, is not.
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1944, Norman Mattoon Thomas
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 06:31 PM

Sadly...the Hitler like spirit lives on....around the world.


What is the Hitler like spirit ?
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, untill one day America will be a Socialist nation without knowing how it happened." ...."I know longer need to run as a Presidential Candinate for the Socialist Party. The Democart Party has adopted out platform."

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#10 alien bird

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 07:02 PM

There is an awful lot of speculation about Hitler's body, but one thing is certain: Josef Mengele took cells from Hitler and cloned several little potential fuhrers in South America.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077269/

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 07:36 PM

What is the Hitler like spirit ?

Here, let me answer for newhorizon:

... taxpayer money ... ACORN ... seek out Skid Row bodies and wheel them to polling places ... government services ... amnesty for illegal immigrants ... Democrats would distribute needles, methadone ... imperils their campaign for permanent rule ... anyone who disagrees is a racist ... take control of the Census Bureau ... enemies list ... Rush Limbaugh ... Fox News ... do the president's bidding ... mainstream media delirium ... radicalized Democratic Party ... Moveon.org, George Soros ... Self-avowed anarchists and open socialists ... May Day parades ... dole out billion-dollar bonuses ... taxpayers' expense ... orgy of special-interest payback ... unions ... Where is the media ... NBC News ... MSNBC ... liberal triumphalism ... Mr. Limbaugh ... Sarah Palin ... NBC News and MSNBC ...The New York Times ... liberal Hollywood celebrities ... Keith Olbermann ... venom ... Nancy Pelosi ...

That help?
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#12 veritas

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 07:56 PM

The story Ive allways thought I knew was he killed himself, his people took him outside and burned his body then burried it.

Later it was added that the Russians found him dug him up and took him to Russia.

So Im assuming that this current story, is that the dna on what was left of it, after Stalin said to get rid of it does not match.

So the body that the KGB says was Hitler, is not.


That they had his teeth is beyond question because Hitler had extensive and easily identifiable work. It was confirmed by the diagrams of Hitler's teeth drawn by his dentist, Hugo Blaschke. That the Russians have a skull that is not Hitler's is irrelevant to the question of whether he survived. He didn't.
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#13 jrob

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 08:17 PM

What is the Hitler like spirit ?


Well, the most obvious would be the UN, an openly and proudly nazi worshipping body, espouser for the eradication of human rights wherever they lie.

Of course, its sycophants insist that it's not a Hitlerian body, because the mere fact that they support its policy means that such cannot be true.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 08:40 PM

That they had his teeth is beyond question because Hitler had extensive and easily identifiable work. It was confirmed by the diagrams of Hitler's teeth drawn by his dentist, Hugo Blaschke. That the Russians have a skull that is not Hitler's is irrelevant to the question of whether he survived. He didn't.


I am not claiming to believe the conspiracy, however the same people who claimed to have compared the dental records also cremated the body many years later leaving no evidence, while also keeping the remains shrouded in secrecy when they did exist.

It's the type of situation that breeds conspiracy theories.
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#15 David

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 09:20 PM

The Nazis could have had a Hitler double undergo all the dental work that the real Hitler had and left the Hitler double body to be found while the real Hitler hightailed it somewhere.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 09:41 PM

The Nazis could have had a Hitler double undergo all the dental work that the real Hitler had and left the Hitler double body to be found while the real Hitler hightailed it somewhere.


Or maybe the Hitler we know wasn't really the real Hitler in the first place, and they found the fake Hitler's (the one we know) teeth while the real Hitler (whom we don't know) got away. :)
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 11:01 PM

Or maybe the Hitler we know wasn't really the real Hitler in the first place, and they found the fake Hitler's (the one we know) teeth while the real Hitler (whom we don't know) got away. :)


Sounds plausible to me, Dembo.:D

#18 dogfish

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 11:06 PM

So....he would be like////140 years old now?
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#19 Foxtrot

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 05:03 AM

So....he would be like////140 years old now?


He may have died at Dien Bien Phu with the other SS troops, fighting under the French. ;)
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1944, Norman Mattoon Thomas
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 05:23 AM

Maybe he moved to Chicago and fathered a child with a black woman back in 1961.
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